Taiwanese Women and Foreigners

I’m not saying its true or event prevalent, but here’s a different intepretation. Take it for what its worth.

I used to be only into American/caucasian girls, mainly for physical but also cultural reasons. Then I opened up to Americans in general of any nationality. Now I seem to like foreign Asian girls or Asian-Americans who are more traditional. It’s kind of weird, but it’s partly what I’ve said before about appreciating traditional values more. And I’m very turned off by the cynicism that exists among Americans. They’ve lost the sweetness and innocence that foreign Asian people/girls seem to still have. And since Asians are still generally conservative about sex, I just get the impression that Asian girls generally don’t sleep around as much compared to Americans. When my brother married my sister-n-law, she was 26 and still a virgin. And she’s pretty too. How common is it to find a pretty 26y.o. American girl who hasn’t gotten her cherry popped yet?

When you watch Taiwanese programming on t.v. or movies, do you see alot of sex? In the rare times that couples kiss on tv or even in movies, do you see any tongue? I don’t think so!!! I’m sure you’ve watched American and European tv/movies. When you compare all three, you can see which culture is the more conservative about sex.

I’ve been watching some of these Taiwanese soap operas (mainly to practice my mandarin… :smiley: ), and they are soooo innocent compared to American soaps, almost like the way American soaps were back in the 60’s, very cheesy-like romantic. When you see two Taiwanese people kiss, they tend to look uncomfortable, and they seem to just peck at each other. But when Americans and Europeans kiss, tongues be flying everywhere!!! Europeans are the most sexually liberal by far. They make Americans look prudish. I once watched a French movie called “Romance”. Umm…if it wasn’t considered an artsy film, many would label the movie pornographic!!

So yes, Taiwanese/Asians are more conservative about sex. Nuff said.

Are you all Asian? I didn’t say ONLY Asians value strong family units, etc.

You say that like it’s a good thing. :noway:

"A combination of societal stereotypes of Westerners result in a type of racist love, which focuses on their cultural and physical differences as a Western property. Often times the term “Western” is used to describe objects from Europe and America. Taiwanese society is fascinated with Westerners in the same manner that they are fascinated with these objects from the West. Foreigners in Taiwan are thus seen as objects, and depersonalized in the process. Taiwanese society accepts the differences of foreigners on a superficial level, seemingly receiving American culture with an open mind.

    The main reasoning behind this interest taken in “Western” culture is the mere fact that it is different, and almost cute in a queer way.  Thus in order to maintain this interest, “Oriental” differences are exaggerated.  The increased importance placed on the exotic qualities of those foreign wonders is deceiving.  This exoticism of “foreigners” seems to be genuine interest on the surface level, but upon closer examination racist stereotypes are also motivating factors. 

The objectification of foreign men in Taiwanese society as exotic, mysterious, and intriguing “yang-gui,” is a more obvious example of exoticism. Racist stereotypes involving images of the extroverted, passionate foreign male seem exciting to Taiwanese women seeking a partner for an intimate relationship. A sort of preference, or “love” for foreign men is formed as a result of racist stereotypes regarding the inherent hyper-sexuality of foreign men. Thus exoticism serves to further and reinforce racist love."

And there you have it: an answer to why Chinese girls are attracted to foreign guys.

Geeee, and to think I thought it’s because some Taiwanese girls think some foreigners are just plain cute.

[quote=“Poagao”]"Racist stereotypes involving images of the extroverted, passionate foreign male seem exciting to Taiwanese women seeking a partner for an intimate relationship. A sort of preference, or

My gf left a wealthy, successful, good-looking, buff, 35 year-old local guy with an expensive sports car for me. (Actually, she says it wasn’t because of me, but I prefer my version.) :wink: I asked her why she was interested in me and she told me that it was because I am the most San Ba guy she has ever dated. :smiley: :rainbow: :smiley: :rainbow:
hehehehehe…

The real cause of trouble in BOTH Western and Taiwanese culture is the MEN. That’s right. Lazy muthas. No one wants to do the WORK to keep a relationship real and fresh. American women got sick of that shit a long time ago. That’s why the divorce rate is so high. When the “magic” of the sexual relationship wears off, there’s nuthin’ left. They’ve never built a friendship with each other. They’ve never learned how to romance each other in different creative ways. They’ve never learned how to communicate. Great relationships are the exception, not the rule. Only a select few have the gift of knowing how to make it work right.

And now an armchair analysis:

American AND Taiwanese guys both like Taiwanese women because they’re more submissive than American women. American men are usually happy with their submissive Taiwanese girls until they get over the infatuation with the “cute” talk and mannerisms. Then they find out Taiwanese girls don’t usually think much for themselves, and having truly meaningful dialogue with them is improbable.

The Taiwanese guys, on the other hand, usually have a couple of mistresses off to the side to keep them from bothering their wives too much. And their submissive wives don’t bother to leave them 'cause the money’s too good.

Taiwanese guys like the way American women look, but are usually overwhelmed with how much they expect out of them (material things and sex excluded).

Taiwanese girls like American men because they make more effort to romance them than the typical Taiwanese guy. Remember, American guys are used to the girl expecting more out of them. Culture, I suppose. Then they realize the only reason guys do that stuff is to get them into bed. Bummer.

Asian-American folks tend to have a nice balance of the American things and the Asian things. Maybe that’s why they’re so out of y’all’s league.

American girls like wealthy, powerful Asian guys. That is, of course, until they realize that the wealthy, powerful Asian guys like submissive females. Then the shit hits the fan.

American women like a guy that doesn’t think with his genitalia. A guy that’s going to respect them as an equal partner, and treat them like a friend. Yes, American women are scary in that respect. But they’re truly the wisest.

All generalisations aside, people are people. And no two people are alike. My “observations” stated above are more for entertainment than for anything else. The fact of the matter is that, while cultural differences ought to be taken into consideration, we never know how a relationship’s gonna end up. Even the seemingly most messed-up relationships sometimes last until death. And those “perfect” relationships often meet a miserable end. If any of us really knew what we were talking about, we’d be able to save people a lot of time and trouble. So get out of your armchair and experience life a little.

Couldn’t the same be said of women?

[quote=“Mo Joe”]The real cause of trouble in BOTH Western and Taiwanese culture is the MEN. That’s right. Lazy muthas. No one wants to do the WORK to keep a relationship real and fresh. American women got sick of that shit a long time ago. That’s why the divorce rate is so high. When the “magic” of the sexual relationship wears off, there’s nuthin’ left. They’ve never built a friendship with each other. They’ve never learned how to romance each other in different creative ways. They’ve never learned how to communicate. Great relationships are the exception, not the rule. Only a select few have the gift of knowing how to make it work right.

And now an armchair analysis:

American AND Taiwanese guys both like Taiwanese women because they’re more submissive than American women. American men are usually happy with their submissive Taiwanese girls until they get over the infatuation with the “cute” talk and mannerisms. Then they find out Taiwanese girls don’t usually think much for themselves, and having truly meaningful dialogue with them is improbable.

The Taiwanese guys, on the other hand, usually have a couple of mistresses off to the side to keep them from bothering their wives too much. And their submissive wives don’t bother to leave them 'cause the money’s too good.

Taiwanese guys like the way American women look, but are usually overwhelmed with how much they expect out of them (material things and sex excluded).

Taiwanese girls like American men because they make more effort to romance them than the typical Taiwanese guy. Remember, American guys are used to the girl expecting more out of them. Culture, I suppose. Then they realize the only reason guys do that stuff is to get them into bed. Bummer.

Asian-American folks tend to have a nice balance of the American things and the Asian things. Maybe that’s why they’re so out of y’all’s league.

American girls like wealthy, powerful Asian guys. That is, of course, until they realize that the wealthy, powerful Asian guys like submissive females. Then the shit hits the fan.

American women like a guy that doesn’t think with his genitalia. A guy that’s going to respect them as an equal partner, and treat them like a friend. Yes, American women are scary in that respect. But they’re truly the wisest.

All generalisations aside, people are people. And no two people are alike. My “observations” stated above are more for entertainment than for anything else. The fact of the matter is that, while cultural differences ought to be taken into consideration, we never know how a relationship’s gonna end up. Even the seemingly most messed-up relationships sometimes last until death. And those “perfect” relationships often meet a miserable end. If any of us really knew what we were talking about, we’d be able to save people a lot of time and trouble. So get out of your armchair and experience life a little.[/quote]

Looks to me like another feminazi trying to put the deterioration of American marriages solely on the male species. Excuse me, but isn’t marriage a 2 WAY STREET?

See that’s the problem with American women that you failed to acknowledge. They expect the men to do everything, to “hold their hand”, so to speak, in a relationship. When something goes wrong, men are the ones expected to initiate the make up/damage control phase. If we don’t, then we’re automatically labeled as lazy or incompetent. Conversely, men aren’t much better, either, and do have their own general faults.

But wise up and realize that American women are not innocent bystanders in what you are trying to argue and make them look like. It takes two to tango.

So if one of the more “inevitable” reasons for foreign men to hook up with Taiwanese women and there are fewer foreign women than men, then how come we don’t hear of the probability of WF/TM happening more often than FM/TF? Certainly the percentage would be higher, you’d think.

Because if the local Taiwanese man can’t find a local Taiwanese girlfriend, he imports. 1/4 of all marriages in Taiwan are with foreigners. Mail-order brides - the hottest craze to hit this island since mah-jong. Why would a normal Taiwanese guy want to put up with a liberated Western woman who’s probably stronger and more intelligent than he is (and thus threatening), when he can just send for a nice, docile, semi-literate Vietnamese girl who’ll perform all the traditional, wifely duties around the house without complaint?

So I’ve heard alot of conflicting things. Western men get lots of attention in Taiwan from Taiwanese women. Taiwanese women don’t pay attention to Western men. It’s relatively easy to find female companionship in Taiwan. It’s difficult to find female companionship in Taiwan.

Are Taiwanese women sometimes looked down upon if they date Western men? I used to live with a Chinese girl in Paris (She was from the Mainland), and whenever we went grocery shopping in Chinatown, we got dirty looks from alot of the locals, sometimes they even made snide remarks in the Wenzhou dialect. She told me that they assumed she was with me because of my money (funny considering I didn’t have any!) They assumed I was rich because I was white.

What do you all think?

I have actually discussed this with my wife and her family quite often since I always see posts such as this on this site… As for woman being looked down on for dating foreigners??? Not in this family or circle of friends, not at all… Yes when her family first found out they were suprised, but not angry at all… And they were worried… Worried just for the reason that all they about Americans and their relationships is divorce, divorce, divorce… They were worried that the same will happen to their daughter and I completely understand… I mean come on, I have know friends etc, that has not had a divorce in their family, even mine, so I understood that issue…

But as for being looked down on I have yet to see it… All the friends, family, business associates, etc, have all been completely supportive… Like I stated before, we even have Mayor Ma doing our HUGE wedding so if there was any anger, embarrasement etc. I do not think that would be taking place.

As for stares, yes, we have received them but like my wife says it is probably the fact that I have tattooes going up and down my arms not that she is asian and me white and I believe that cause we dont get them when I am dressed in my business attire…

What exactly is a feminazi? Has there been a massive internment and extermination of 6 million male chauvinists that I am not aware of?

What exactly is a feminazi? Has there been a massive internment and extermination of 6 million male chauvinists that I am not aware of?[/quote]
No, but there should be… :laughing:

What exactly is a feminazi? Has there been a massive internment and extermination of 6 million male chauvinists that I am not aware of?[/quote]

From Urban Dictionary:

Feminazi
noun

  1. a feminist who refuses to subscribe to logic
  2. a manhater
  3. dislikes all men because of the societal pressures women face, but is unwilling to concede to the fact that the sentiment is perpetuated by both sexes
  4. aggressive towards men because of their sex
  5. promoter of reverse sexual discrimination; often feels her sexism is justified because of the “atrocities endured by women”
  6. does not adhere to the philosophy of feminism, but instead promotes a simplified, inaccurate, uniformed view

Uh, thanks – and what exactly is an “Urban Dictionary”?