I’ve been here about two months now. Can someone please explain why so many Taiwanese women like foreign men? Do they all want husbands? I can’t beleive the amount of attention I’m getting since coming here. I won’t go into stories … but someone must know what I’m talking about.
Yeah, all you have to do is walk around for a few minutes and you’ll see several foreign man/Chinese woman couples. I’ve often wondered the same thing. It might have something to do with the impression that there’s so many more foreign men here than foreign women. Maybe Taiwanese women feel less bound by traditional mores and therefore are more enamoured of a West seen by many as the height of fashion.
Perhaps its because most Western men in Taiwan come from countries much more advanced with regard to the gaining equal status for women in society. Perhaps we are just (as a rule) nicer to women in general.
I can’t believe it could be all purely down to fashion. Could it???
I don’t think you can generalise about this much and there’s many different reasons. Also it depends if they’re just sleeping with western guys, going out with them or marrying them. I think for SOME Taiwanese women who like western men, SOME of the reasons are:
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Some women liek to have a bit fo fun beofe they getmarried and this is easy with foreigners who are not generally as conservative as Taiwanese.
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Taiwanese men can get serious about marriage very quickly sometimes and maybe Tawianese women don’t want this.
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Some Taiwanese women want more independence than they can often get with Taiwanese men.
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Maybe some Taiwanese women are attracted to ‘the exotic’ just as some western guys are with the reverse effect.
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Some more mercenary women are out to improve their English for free or even get a greencard.
As to why so many western men sleep with, go out with and marry Chinese women, I think the most important and simple resaon is that there are a lot more Taiwanese women around than western women and with peple living here a long time, it’s just natural.
As for my reasons why taiwanese women prefer western men, I don’t mena to put down Taiwanese guys at all, but generally as far as marriage and men and women’s roles is concerned Taiwan is a lot more conservative than most western countries, so a woman who wants a relationship of equality and independence is (in general terms) a lot mroe likely to get it with wesern men than Chinese men. This is a society thing not a racial thing.
bri
Maybe it’s because many modern day media/entertainment venues focus on the white/foreign male. The girls in Taiwan are growing up with a similar set of idols as the girls in the West: Brad Pitt, 'N Sync, Tom Cruise, Bill Clinton (just kidding) - is it any wonder that they try to replicate that in their own lives?
If that’s the case, how come the local guys aren’t following their lead? They are so sissy! And look at the local male role models, the actors and the singers alike. All sissies! Sissy sissy sissy!
I work for an English-language newspaper in Taiwan which purports to foster a “harmonious atmosphere” among the Taiwanese and foreign staff, a working environment where “interpersonal skills are highly valued” and which nurtures “trust and respect within our team.” The quotes are verbatim and from the company’s senior Chinese management.
However, the very same people who coined these expressions take it upon themselves to warn unmarried Taiwanese female workers to “stay away from foreign men” who work at the company. These warnings take place in private and no explanation is given as to why they should heed this “advice” as the management apparently calls it.
As far as I’m aware, no female worker has ever been “advised” to stay away from their male Chinese coworkers.
Is this simply a reflection of the misconduct of male foreigners in Taiwan or blatant racism on behalf of the Chinese management of the company? I wonder if anybody else here has heard of similar behavior at other Taiwanese companies… :s
perhaps it’s the big schlongs these westerners purport to having, as opposed to
the local willy wee wees…(myth)
but noooo, taiwanese women would never admit THAT!!
or it could be the ‘get me away from mother-in-law’ factor…
but really folks, it’s the status of having a foreigner wrapped around their bony little fingers, no matter how undesirable, and many truly are…
you could always stop one on the street while she’s out strolling with her gorilla
and point blank ask her…‘uh, what exactly do you see in this bloke? is it his red, mottled skin, his sexy paunch, or his useful passport?’
In my experience sleeping with Asian and Caucasian men, generally speaking the size of their shlong can usually be judged by their height. Most Taiwanese guys my age (36) grew up poor, not having the best nutrition. Many of them are around my height- 5’4-5’8- and have small weens. In contrast, the ABC guy I went out with was around 5’10 and stocky- better nutrition I suppose- and had a bigger ween. Actually, I would trade a big one for a smaller one on a kind, considerate, reasonably intelligent guy who wasn’t always bothering for sex any day. My experience with Taiwanese men is that they are more controlling than American men, just as traditonal Chinese parents are more controlling than the average American mom and dad.
But what you’re saying makes no sense. Think about African men, who also may not have had the best nutrition growing up, and their nobs are, shall we say, ‘adequate’.
The 2 smallest i’ve ever seen were owned by one taiwanese and one american and the 2 largest, were also proud taiwanese and americans…!!
Perhaps it’s all in the genes/jeans…
That’s been my experience, but your experience may be broader than mine. I’m talking about one mainland Chinese guy, one Taiwanese, one waishengren, and one ABC. As for Caucasians, about 7 (?). Can’t remember anymore. Haven’t been with any Black people. But again, what does it matter if you’re with someone who is very well-endowed/attractive if he is a complete asshole? Now if you only want to be with the guy for 2 minutes and do your thing, or you have two guys who are equally good in every respect except ween size, sure, go for the bigger ween. But Life isn’t usually that kind.
Talk about credibility issues! This conversation has become nothing more than degrading. I find it unbelievable the twists these threads take, but this is just too far. It’s outright crude, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for lowering your standards to nothing more than mindless quips about “genitalia”. 
I happen to be married to a very beautiful girl. But we are married for no other reason than the fact that she is a wonderful human being. She’s kind, faithful, intelligent, ambitious, and the greatest friend I’ve ever had. Had I been “skirt-chasing” all my life, I’d probably have passed her right by. Luckily, what I looked for and desired in a woman transcended physical appearance. I was taught a long time ago that there are more important things, and I appreciate that fact. Perhaps you should learn a thing or two, and remember that pleasure is better enjoyed in spiritual forms than physical. It lasts a lot longer…even an eternity.
crabstick, ween size is a legitimate topic. And anyway, my final point was the same as yours so what are you bitching about? It’s very unbecoming and leads one to think that we have hit on a sensitive issue with you- ie: you have a small ween-E. Sorry, somebody had to tell you the impression you are making…PS i am very happy to hear that you and your wife have a great relationship- it sounds very clean and hole-some.
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This is crbkstiles wife. It is very unbecoming to be discussing men’s packages. Even still, not only have you insulted my husband, you have made yourself look like a very shallow woman. How dare you size up any man that you do not know!
Now that we’ve debunked the small weenie myth, I’d like to debunk another: that Taiwanese women are conservative. I disagree.
When I first came here I did the rounds to apply for English teaching jobs. I visited several places and all of them wanted to hire me.
This one office manager was really agressive. One night she called me up and asked me out to drinks. She said she wanted to convince me that I should chose her school.
Well you know what happens. I get there and she’s wearing an unbelievable sexy black dress. Her legs were fantastic. I couldn’t believe this was the person that interviewed me earlier in the week. After a few drinks she says, “So what would it take for you to say yes?” or something like that. I said, “How about we go to your place.” I had a roommate and didn’t want to bring her back to my own place. But she lived with her parents. So we went to a hotel, the kind where the hotel’s name is in neon and you rent the rooms by the hour. There wasn’t even a desk clerk. You pick a key and go to the room.
The next day, I told her I would take the job. But she told me she didn’t want to hire me. I guess it would have been too weired. We went out a few times after that. Now I don’t see her anymore. Anyway, Taiwanese women are definitely not conservative.
Sounds like a matter of preference to me. Chinese guys are definitely smaller in the hot dog area, but much more attractive on average naked then us gorillas. Also, they’re generally less manly, but there’s a lot of hairy legged manly Chinese guys, they just don’t have that back hair to get stuck in your teeth. Also, of course you may or may not think that Chinese men’s faces are more attractive, too. Some people may think that being less manly is more attractive.
I suppose it’s all a matter of preference. I would assume that a lot of women will opt mostly for how a guy acts over what he looks like, but I don’t understand that. Also, a lot of women like manly attributes, like 5 o’clock shadow or a hairy chest…weird.
And, I don’t understand why people here complain that a lot of white guys who come here suddenly become Mr. Superstud…so, are you saying he’s stupid because he’s smart enough to suddenly become a superstud, or that you approve or disapprove. What exactly is your point?
Yeah, well we all have an opinion, and I personally think that Chinese people are much more attractive than white people, but of course with age there’s not really that much difference, just check out people walking down the street, so you may as well enjoy some of the beauty while you’re still young and reasonably attractive, too. You only live once.
As far as why Chinese women date white meat, I think a lot of them feel a Taiwanese husband can be a real jerk, and want to get out of it, even if it means licking a hairy nipple for the rest of your life. And, it’s true there are some really selfish, nasty Taiwanese husbands…
Hee, hee,
I can see that obviously most of you “anonymous” posters aren’t even “manly” enough to register yourself so we can see who you are. Not only are you gutless, but you haven’t any scruples at all.
I’m not insulted. It’s difficult for me to be insulted by children using playground cut downs. I’ve got an idea! Why not go back to primary school, so you’ll be more at home in your native environment, and maybe even learn something. This is the adult world, boys and girls, and recess is over.
I’m not going to respond to any more of your insults, and I regret I involved myself in this thread in the first place. Sure, I could stoop to crude language and vulgar cut downs, if I really wanted to. But the fact of the matter is that it would be mindless and unconstructive. This is one “debate” I’d just as soon not participate in. None of you people have any credibility to say anything, in my book, and you ought to be ashamed.
Just for your information, you’ve upset my wife with your disgusting and crude insults, and she is going to file a complaint with the moderators that such slander is allowed to exist in these forums. Because of people like you, you may have just cost your right to post as an unregistered user. Mark my words.
Sorry, but this isn’t a kindergarten. I don’t feel it’s necessary to intervene for several reasons. First of all, you posted in a thread that you found to be “degrading”. Why, for heavens sake, would you then insert comments about your relationship with your wife and her physical appearance into it? That doesn’t make sense. If you don’t like this topic, move to another one. One of the fun things about this forum is that it stays free. If you’re offended, don’t post. As for us moderators, we’re here to try to keep overtly hateful messages out of the forum. It’s entirely subjective, but we prefer to err on the side of free speech, rather then censorship. Most of the time, we try to keep out profanities, overtly racist remarks, and anything aimed at spreading hate or advocating violence.
Slander by the way, according to my trusty Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary is defined thusly:
[quote]Main Entry: 2slander
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sclaundre, slaundre, from Old French esclandre, from Late Latin scandalum stumbling block, offense – more at SCANDAL
Date: 14th century
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another’s reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person[/quote]
Since nobody here knows who you are, I don’t see any damage to your reputation, or to your wife’s reputation.
I know nobody likes jokes being made at their own expense, but c’mon… As Crass Act says, “Lighten up, the world’s gonna end soon enough, and online dick jokes aren’t gonna be the reason.”
Thanks Angst for introducing a new element into the discussion - common sense.
I was beginning to wonder about things, particularly after Mr Stiles threatened to have the right to post anonymously suspended used the phrase, “mark my words”. I was afraid he was going to get his mother to come along and tell us all off.
So, once again, thanks for putting this whole thing into perspective.
Three kinds of Taiwanese women exist to be with foreigners. The others, the well-bred, well-educated kind, wouldn’t dream of such a breach of filial piety.
The Free Spirit-this woman is open-minded, reasonably intelligent, creative, and independent. She likes foreigners because they support these attributes, and she usually ends up marrying one. One of the better ones.
The Bar Slut-this woman is found prowling the local haunts (99, 45, Vibe), regularly feeding upon newbies. She’s mainly looking for sex with white men in order to brag to her equally slutty girlfriends. The Bar Slut comes in the ‘nympho’ variety, and the ‘just plain crazy’…She’s the one that a whole group of mates may have shagged at some point, then, when she’s found herself smitten with the best looking lao wai, she pretends to want to commit suicide if he ditches her for the next Bar Slut. This variety is rather dangerous, and newbies should beware! Especially the less handsome ones who’ll end up marrying her and then having to suffer her polygomous nature.
The Loser-this variety cannot get a local boyfriend to save her soul. Perhaps she’s just not that attractive to the Taiwanese. It would be much better if she could find a local, as she now has to contend with the parents about her wonderful foreign boyfriend, who, btw, had to wait six months to finger her, and will eventually pop her cherry. She too will marry a foreigner, and likely, leave Taiwan.
All three varieties are manipulative and scheming, although the Free Spirit and the Loser are obviously the best choices for long term committment.