I’m working on this with a University Professor who has a line into FSC.
Can anyone who is a Taiwan tax resident only (no Americans please!) and has a tax withholding form specifying tax jurisdiction other than Taiwan (like Matteo’s IT and NOTIN) please paste in here or message me? Need to collate a few more examples
Me. I am only tax resident in Taiwan. But some bank interest tax statements and even salary statements say DE.
Individuals are subject to tax on their worldwide income if they meet either of the following conditions:
they have a domicile in Germany for their personal use.
they have a “customary place of abode” in Germany and do not stay only temporarily at this place or in this area. This means that if they are present in Germany for an uninterrupted period of at least 6 months that may fall in 2 calendar years, a customary place of abode is given in any case
I’ve already posted at least one upthread I think, but I have a couple more sitting around and will dig them out later. I assume personal info is okay to be redacted?
Thanks to those who replied rapidly. These were highly useful for explaining the issue. We’ll get sign off from the professor, and go from there to the FSC to the banks and see how we go.
Once this is done I’m going to take on the bank of Taiwan. I maintained a balance of 1000 ntd and they disabled the account because I refused to provide my Australian tax file number a couple of years ago.
I never bothered with it because I didn’t have the time and wanted to take collective action.
It’s a good idea, I’ve also found it hard to keep track of who’s complained about what. There’s also a wiki that @slawa created a few months back that has some overlap with this, but it’s probably missing a fair amount of stuff.
News:
Thanks to a case that landed on my desk, a veteran civil servant making a few calls, and some of the right people at the bank, this issue may be closer to resolution at one bank.
Taishin HQ took a look at the actions of the teller in a case where a foreign national tax resident only in Taiwan was told to fill in a TIN for their passport country and agreed that should not have happened. Further, rather than just fixing the case (which they did), they stated they plan to roll out changes to fix all such cases.
I guess it will take a few months at best, but at least those guys over at Taishin are willing to listen and try something.
Thanks for pushing along with this. But it’s not only about some customers needing a TIN for their passport country, but also the fact that their passport countries appear at all on these certificates (along with “NOTIN”, which I think is not how banks are supposed to be using that code).
This is what Richart/Taishin came up with back at the start of this year if I remember correctly, and it’s how they’ve treated my withholding tax certificates so far. They asked four times during the application process whether I’m really only tax resident in Taiwan, and then decided “oh, he’s probably tax resident in the UK anyway”.
Are they intending to fix that too? It’s not clear to me from what you wrote if the proposed solution just means removing TINs when they shouldn’t be there for foreign customers only tax resident in Taiwan.
This would just mean their forms appear the same as mine are now, i.e., still indicating tax residency in the passport country just without a TIN, which is pretty much what started this discussion in the first place and the thing we weren’t happy with…
So what are the banks asking people who hold multiple nationality asked?
It’s no secret I am born in a foreign country says so on our ID cards.
Also for Australia NAB I can show lists me as tax resident of Taiwan not Australia. For Australia it shows I am not tax resident.
As for accounts in countries I am not a resident of… they never ask lol
I suspect it’s not really a major issue. Probably something like this:
(A) If one of their nationalities is Taiwanese → they’re tax-resident in Taiwan, of course! No need to fill that out!
(B) If neither of their nationalities is Taiwanese → they’re a foreigner, so must be tax-resident in the country of whatever passport they presented to the bank staff.
Note that (B) is just the same as how most foreigners get treated at most banks.