The is in Taiwan running the teaching certification program/MS in education. This is a great way for teacher’s to get their teaching certification while working full time. This is the same program as the one that is in Bangkok, Thailand. If you are interested, you can contact dlau@pacificamerican.org The program runs in Hsinchu, Taiwan. 
The what is in Taiwan?
Get one of the tutors to correct your English. It’s not a good advertisement for your program.
Which one in Thailand? The CELTA at ECC or the dozen or so expensive, pointless and unrecognised ones?
So this certification is recognized by the Taiwan government? Get this and you’re qualified to teach in Taiwan’s public school system?
[quote=“Buttercup”]Get one of the tutors to correct your English. It’s not a good advertisement for your program.
Which one in Thailand? The CELTA at ECC or the dozen or so expensive, pointless and unrecognised ones?[/quote]I think what the OP means is the kind of certification that qualifies you to teach in state schools in the USA.
From another post of his/hers:[quote=“bunny_1013”]… The college of New Jersey runs a program in Hsinchu (Xinzhu) that will get teacher’s certified to teach at any school (including public schools) all while working full time. If you want information, contact dlau@pacificamerican.org[/quote]
And from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_College_of_New_Jersey :
“Currently students can complete a State of New Jersey Teacher Certification and earn a Master of Education degree while studying in Bangkok, Thailand.”
Sandman, if this really is what it seems to be, then yes, it should qualify people to teach in the public school system, as well as in places such as TAS.
I see. But how can you work fulltime if you have to attend a course in Hsinchu? Seems a bit strange to me, because it can’t be distance learning, as the government here doesn’t recognize distance learning quals, does it?
Sounds good for Americans who need certification for if they go back to their country.
Excuse me for assuming it was a ESL/EFL course. One track mind, these days…
Good luck. AND SORT THE APOSTOPHES OUT.
Oh. Teaching in America. Which has what to do with teaching English in Taiwan?
[quote=“sandman”]I see. But how can you work fulltime if you have to attend a course in Hsinchu (Xinzhu)? Seems a bit strange to me, because it can’t be distance learning, as the government here doesn’t recognize distance learning quals, does it?[/quote]Well, it seems from the OP’s posts that this is learning on the job. You work at their school, which is supposedly also a training provider affiliated in some way with the College of New Jersey.
If their place is an accredited institution in its own right, I guess the restrictions on distance learning might not apply.
[quote=“sandman”]Oh. Teaching in America. Which has what to do with teaching English in Taiwan?[/quote]Well, if you’re accredited to teach in state schools in America, you’re also good to teach in state schools here, right? That is, if the distance learning thing doesn’t apply.
This is all speculation, though. I hope the OP makes some more informative posts about what exactly they’re offering. And yes, proper punctuation would be lovely.
Please don’t be fooled by the OP. I’m fairly certain it’s a scam. The process for certification: being accepted for a teacher training program, meeting the course and practicum and student teaching requirements for state certification are not going to happen anywhere in Taiwan or anywhere outside the US.
Simply go to the web site of any State’s Education Department and read about the certification process.
I want to add that few State certified teachers are going to come to Taiwan to teach unless they are making a career change or nearing retirement. Most states require active teaching in public schools as well as additional coursework to keep the certificate up-to-date. Three to 5 year certificates are common today; certificates must then be renewed with coursework and/or public school teaching. A very long time ago, lifetime certificates were issued. Simply put, few certified teachers could afford to lose their certification and benefits and positions in order to teach in Taiwan.
Sounded a bit odd, with such a krappy ad, put on a forum.
I agree with Buttercup that it sounded a bit odd. However, my guess is that this a case of well-meaning, over-enthusiastic promotion by a member of staff at the Pacific American school.
As far as I can tell from looking at the Wikipedia article on the College of New Jersey (to make sure it’s a real place), and the college’s own site (to make sure it really offers teacher certification through the Pacific American School in Xinzhu–see the side menu), this is legitimate.
However, the certification (at least the initial one) appears to be valid only for international schools. And I’m not sure whether the MOE here would recognise it for the purpose of teaching in a regular state school.[quote]The Certificate of Qualification (CQ) was designed especially for non-US citizens who meet the program requirements for teacher (instructional) certification but do not have a US Social Security number and/or have not taken the appropriate PRAXIS examination. The CQ is recognized by the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools as a valid and complete teaching credential for teachers who work in overseas schools.[/quote]
I have to agree with joesax that the certification may not be recognized by the MOE in Taiwan. The certification issued by The College of New Jersey through Pacific American School in Hsinchu is for international schools.
But if you are a U.S. citizen then you can take the appropriate praxis exam are eligible to work in a New Jersey school.
Therefor from my reading I believe to obtain a valid teachers license from this collage or any other collage you must be either a U.S. citizens or have U.S. permanent residence. As far as I’m aware to be come a teacher in th public school system in Taiwan the MOE require teachers to have valid teachers license from their home state.
Hopefully someone can correct me if I’m wrong. Or if you could provide any more information on this program from The College of New Jersey through Pacific American School in Hsinchu this would be most appreciated.
Cheers
I almost signed up for it, and then finances got in the way; I may still do it in 2009 if they’re offering the programme again.
Pacific American school is “hosting” the programme with profs brought from NJTC, in order to “qualify” their own teachers. To make class numbers high enough for NJTC to offer the certification programme, they offer the course to anyone who wishes to take it. You need to submit transcripts (or rather, have your university where you got your original degree to submit them) to the main school in New Jersey. If interest is high enough, they may offer an MA (or MEd, not sure) the following year. As was mentioned in the other thread, it allows you to teach at international schools (worldwide), and I was told that they weren’t sure if it would be accepted for public schools in Taiwan; they were still looking into it when I decided I couldn’t do it this year, so I didn’t persue it.
The classes are on the Pacific American campus in Hsinchu (Xinzhu), and are usually a week long and intensive. (Sat-Sun full day, M-F evenings, Sat-Sun full day) per class. (I think it amounts to 52 hours of classtime, or something similar).
The person to contact is Donna Lau and her email is dlau@pacificamerican.org. I also have her cell number, but am reluctant to post it on a public board w/o her permission. PM me if you’re serious and I can give it to you.
I’ll try to paste the original brochure here w/o spamming too much:
[quote]
Are you seeking teacher certification or a Masters of Education?
Take the first step, by enrolling in the following course offered by The College of New Jersey:
â–ş Cultural Foundations of Education â—„
(EDFN 521 is a 3-credit graduate course)
The course explores the many ways in which culture affects classrooms and schools, and engages students in exercises that help them see how their own backgrounds affect their work as educators.
When: May 24-June 1
(Class will meet from 9:00-5:00 on Saturday, May 24 and Sunday, May 25, from 5:00 to 9:00 on Monday, May 26, Wednesday, May 28, and Thursday, May 29, and from 9:00 to 5:00 on Saturday May 31 and Sunday June 1)
Where: Pacific-American School, Hsinchu (Xinzhu), Taiwan
Cost: US $1515.00
Our certification program leads to a New Jersey Certificate of Eligibility with Advanced Standing for US citizens and permanent residents and the internationally recognized Certificate of Qualification for non-citizens. The entire program consists of 6 courses completed on-site and two courses completed on a distance basis with our on-line partner Performance Learning Systems. All courses will be offered in Taiwan over a two year cycle. Participants can also take classes in Bangkok or at any of our other sites.
For further information about our teacher certification programs visit tcnj.edu/~graduate.
We anticipate offering additional courses on the following schedule:
Dec. 2008: Teaching Exceptional Children (SPED 501)
Jan. 2009: Advanced Trends in Elementary/Secondary Education (ELEM/SCED 663)
Mar. 2009: Internship I (ELEM/SCED 694)
May 2009: Child and Adolescent Development (EPSY 523)
June 2009: Content Literacy (RDLG 579)
At The College of New Jersey, tradition is important. Our strong academic tradition began in 1855 when the College was established as New Jersey’s first and the nation’s ninth teacher education school. Today, TCNJ is a highly competitive, mid-sized institution that has achieved national distinction for its commitment to excellence.
The College of New Jersey serves as a leader in international education, and has done so for nearly 25 years. TCNJ offers graduate courses leading to certification and master’s degree programs at sites in Mallorca, Spain; Bangkok, Thailand; Kuwait City, Kuwait; Cairo, Egypt; and La Paz, Bolivia.[/quote]
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
[quote=“nemesis”]I’ll try to paste the original brochure here w/o spamming too much:[/quote]Not at all; thanks for that and the other information. Could be useful to some people here.
Sounds like a great way to get further skills, and for Americans planning on returning at some point to get certification.
Please excuse my earlier snippiness.
Hi All,
I just came across this thead and I was wondering if anyone actually did the course. I am still thinking of doing it here in Bangkok, and would love to hear experiences from others who did the course.
Thanks a lot in advance!
It wouldn’t be recognized by the MoE because a portion of it is admittedly distance. It’s too bad, really, I was also interested in this.
Then again, here’s a recent PDF on it:
tcnj.edu/~graduate/global/taiwan.html
It’s still going on after all, and it seems quite reasonable for hours if you can make the trip. You can get a Master’s in Elementary Ed or Secondary Ed, however you cannot get one in TESOL via PAS. The hours are reasonable, as I said, but a bit shit for me… I finish work at 4:30 and it’d be tough indeed to get from the mountains of Xindian to PAS by public transit before 6 pm. Also, I’d prefer a TESOL MA, specifically. I think I’m going to try to do a Celta ASAP, then a Delta, then a cheap online American MA in TESOL like the on from University of Southern Mississippi. It won’t let me be a lecturer, but with those qualifications I could land a sweet private school gig, possibly even better and with (much) higher pay than the awesome job I already have.
I don’t think this program will alow one to teach in public schools in the States. Every State has a different set of requirements.
This one appears to qualify one to take the Praxis exams in New Jersey. After passing the appropriate exams (usually praxis and maybe a content specialty exam, that’s how it is in NY at least) you could potentially get a teaching certificate (with fingerprinting, child abuse prevention seminar, and whatever else they require).
Once you have a permanent certificate in most states, you can often (but not always) obtain a certificate in another state through reciprocity. But getting a permanent cert usually requires something like 2 or 3 years of teaching in that state.
It is a pain that each state does their own thing. Many times you can’t use courses from a certain university to get a certificate in State A, even though after getting the certificate from State B using that course, you can get a cert from State A through reciprocity.