Teaching demo

Is it illegal to do a demo in Taiwan? To my understanding it is. However i cant find the actual law that stayes that. Could someone please send me the link. Also, if giving a demo to Children is illegal, can you give a demo to adults? TIA

Many jobs won’t hire you unless you give a 20-30 minute demo. I doubt immigration will bust in during that half hour and take you down. Up to you whether you think it’s worth it as they’re usually unpaid. If a university or international school asks you to do a demo, I’d certainly do it. A buxiban? Ehhh… they might be trying to get a free lesson out of you. If you’re ballsy, you might request that it just be a demo for the interviewer or you can bring up your concerns about the legality of it.

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Yeah i already did and they said they dont think its illegal but they will double check. But im looking dor the law the states its illegal, cant find that anywhere. So all i have it other foreigners say it is. I need the actual law to show that school.
They said we can postpone the demo for now, which is great. Ill bring in a lesson plan anyways so they can see how i wouldve taught the class. But I’d also like to bring in the law to show them.

if there are no students, it is ok. if there are students, you are providing labor, so need a work permit, as emploiment service act says.

Is it necessary to apply for permission for a cram school to arrange foreigners to try out, try to teach, or engage in temporary speeches, demonstration teaching, and guidance?

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Lol they’re not “double checking” anything. Look, it’s your call. On the one hand, you’d be the unluckiest person in the world if you got busted during one 20 minute demo. On the other hand, the buxiban doesn’t give a shit about the legality and that might point to bigger problems down the road with them. If I were in your shoes, I’d probably just do it as the risk is so negligible to be almost nonexistent… but only if I thought the job was worth the half hour of unpaid labor.

Um, you want this job right? This just makes you seem ”turtle hair” and a bit condescending as you’re an FOB foreigner explaining Taiwanese law to Taiwanese. I wouldn’t do that, it just sounds weird. Either do the demo or don’t, but don’t make it into some huge issue with them or they’ll probably just pass on you out of sheer annoyance.

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What is this? I’ve never come across it before. The closest I can seem to find on Google is like an SOB.

To the OP: @DrewC made good points. The likelihood of anything happening is infinitesimal. And quibbling about it will just reduce the chance of gettting the job or increase the chance of a problematic relationship if you do work for them.

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My wife taught it to me. Not sure what the original Chinese phrase is. Basically means too neurotic and uptight about small things that will annoy others.

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And maybe also willing to be pushy about it to silly, annoying levels. I usually hear it in Taiwanese as gu mo

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Thanjs for that. I sent that to the school and they replied with this. So now im even more confused:

Ahhhhh Wrong demonstration. If you were giving a lecture and demonstrating how to do a certain methodology or process then yes that is working and requires a permit

They’re lying. The explanation at that link is crystal clear.

Others above have said everything else already.

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I would pass on the job, not because they asked me to do a demo (my uni I’ve been working at for almost a decade asked that of me), but because like @tempogain said, they’re deceptive and even manipulative. That signals trouble down the road.

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Thanks, learn something new every day. I hope you weren’t the subject of the lesson, LOL.

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I was! And now I turn it back on her when I think she’s being “turtle hair” :stuck_out_tongue:

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if you are teaching a group of kids, you are teaching, which means you’re working. There is nothing unclear about that. Doing a teaching demo at your potential future boss without students present is straight up awkward. You’re not going to have the level of engagement you would have with real students and it’s impossible to create the set up you’d actually have in a real class.

You can decide for yourself if working for free is something you are willing to do. I, for one, say “My hourly rate is $x. If you would like a demo before deciding if I’m the type of teacher you’re looking for long term, I would be happy to do a one hour trial with you at my hourly rate.” For potential future students who don’t accept this, I am happy to walk away.

There are so many English teaching jobs out there right now. Unless they’re offering you $1500/hr, you can probably find someone else to hire you that doesn’t require a demo.

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they are 示範教學及指導. what they want you do is 試教. the link says for both work permit required if there are students.

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Thank you, i will take your advice

My friend got busted. Lost the ability to get a work permit for years.

Was it a random inspection? Was he not deported?

She was allowed to study. I don’t know the whole story and don’t have contact with her anymore.