Telekinesis or trickery?

Telekenisis recorded. We were discussing evidence forbthe paranormal. Shes going viral

Is that her name? Because she acting with a dog as far as I can tell.

I wonder how she’s faking that? Air flow? Magnets?

Her name is on video.
VALENTINA

I dont know if it is real then great if not then yeah would be useful to know for a hell of a party trip,

Looks like she’s just blowing on things.

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Nope you cant blow with that control and it doesnt look like that at all. Try blowing it like that.

“Things” being limited to a chopstick delicately balanced on a can or bottle, it seems. Let’s wait for her to expand her repertoire. :whistle:

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I agree , if thats a trick its impressive more advanced than Geller who I agree was fake. And shes prettier than Geller.

Looks exactly like that! Pretty old parlour trick that’s been busted many times. Previous famous one was turning the pages of a telephone book, funnily enough it wouldn’t work when feathers or other lightweight objects were place close by as they ruined the aura or something…

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I am just wondering why she needs to balance it on the bottle.

It’s probably harder to demonstrate fake telekinesis when you have to worry about real phenomena like friction.

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Just maybes. She’s demonstrated it on a clear camera. Maybe you can do it too ? I don’t think so but maybe. She’s also choosing the direction of the spin. And there is still friction not as much as sandpaper but it’s there. So far there is no evidence that this is not true just lots of weak guessing.

As I indicated above, I don’t know how she’s faking it from the presented videos — I’d need to be in the room with her to try and figure that out. I am quite confident she’s faking it though.

What do you, or her, propose as the physical mechanism through which this is working? I assume you don’t believe everything you see on a TV screen?

I’m not sure about that. She’s vaguely waving her hands about while the thing moves. Maybe she’s controlling that (through the fakery), maybe she’s not. It’s not a major point I think either way.

Yeah, obviously. Trivial point.

Some of you may enjoy the book: Serpent and the rainbow by Wade Davis. An interesting read.

Not the movie!

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I’m not presuming she’s faking it. No friction is not a trivial point it’s a good point but it still doesn’t explain it. Less friction would also mean everything else in that room, air currents , vibrations …would also affect it.

I’ve read that and I also thought the film was pretty good.

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Here you go man:

There’s an oscillating fan outside of the frame of the video, about 1.5 meters away from the table. It took about 5 minutes to set up, most of which was looking for a wooden chopstick of the right weight for the distance of the fan and the speed setting.

Once the chopstick is balanced on the bottle, it rotates back and forth for a few cycles (surprisingly many cycles, actually — up to at least 10 in some cases), before eventually falling off (which also happened in some of that woman’s Tiktok videos).

I couldn’t be bothered doing the woo-woo hand movements, but I could have done. To the best of my knowledge, I’m not telekinetic.

My point about friction was that by balancing the chopstick on the bottle there’s very little friction because of the limited contact, so the chopstick can easily be made to rotate by blowing on it, as I did.

Yes, exactly — air currents affect it. Which is the basis of the fakery, or at least my implementation of it.

Edit: Here’s another angle:

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We know you’re lying, it’s obviously magic! There’s no fan!

Ha! You’re not fooling us with your fan, it’s clearly too far away to be having any impact, you’re doing magic!!

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I did think of the fan but there is not one in front of the public audience and then in your second video the chopstick fell off and they immediately cut the video. And why is her hair or clothes not showing any vibration not even a tiny blowing effect anywhere in her body , hair or clothes.