nydailynews.com/news/2010/06 … bs_an.html
here is the headline, the rest of this wonderful news is in the above link.
:roflmao: It is like the Taliban, but this time for rednecks and right wing blowhards.
Keep America moving forward.
God Bless Texas!
You link to some dodgy online newspaper article that fails to link to the actual statement of the Texas Republican Party.
[quote=“Deuce Dropper”]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/06/22/2010-06-22_texas_gop_platform_criminalize_gay_marriage_and_ban_sodomy_outlaw_strip_clubs_an.html
here is the headline, the rest of this wonderful news is in the above link.
:roflmao: It is like the Taliban, but this time for rednecks and right wing blowhards.
Keep America moving forward.
God Bless Texas![/quote]
I don’t want to get started on another thread, maybe Okami can take this one. But please explain to me how using the power of the state to criminalize sex, and banning private individuals from operating a business as they see fit is a right wing ideology? I hate to ran on your parade, but just because someone is a Republican, doesn’t mean they are a right winger.
Byshguy,
DD’s tact is to pull some dodgy fever swamp lefty site article, say republicans believe X and they are so mean for believing X and get you into the losing proposition of proving a negative. Media Matters does this a lot as does Huffington Post.
DD can’t enunciate a right wing belief as it would cause a great deal of cognitive dissonance in his mind thereby causing him to lash out in anger. The key to the liberal mind is to take away choice because you find it too bothersome to actually think about your actions beyond the first degree of consequence. DD can’t understand these things so he goes with what feels good now, despite what the repercussions will be later. He’s at this:
Thus incapable of having a serious discussion why the minimum wage is a racist tool of the elite to cause dependency amongst the lower classes making them responsive to appeals for political power to distribute a set amount of wealth that will only get smaller over time.
Cheers,
Okami
[quote=“Okami”]You link to some dodgy online newspaper article that fails to link to the actual statement of the Texas Republican Party.
[/quote]
Yeah you’re right. So here it is:
http://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/FINAL_2010_STATE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf
and on their official website:
http://www.texasgop.org/inner.asp?z=6
Not quite left wing exaggeration:
[quote=“Texas GOP Platform”]Texas Sodomy Statutes – We oppose the legalization of sodomy. We demand that Congress exercise its authority
granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy.
Pornography – We urge our governmental bodies to enforce laws regarding all forms of pornography. We urge more
stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented
businesses. We oppose the sale of “Not Rated” (NR) movies and video games to minors.[/quote]
It goes on. And how can you say that this stuff isn’t right-wing ideology, of course it’s extreme right wing social ideology.
Because such sentiments are mostly the domain of religious fundamentalists and theocrats.
“Family and Defense of Marriage – We support the definition of marriage as a God–ordained, legal and moral commitment only between a natural man and a natural woman, which is the foundational unit of a healthy society, and we oppose the assault on marriage by judicial activists.”
“A natural man and a natural woman”? As opposed to what? An artificial man or woman? WTF???
Much ado about nothing, but I can pretend to be shocked if you want me to make you feel better.
What do you think about the GOP’s perennial opposition to gay rights?
[quote=“Chris”]What do you think about the GOP’s perennial opposition to gay rights?[/quote]Which rights would those be?
Bingo! See, you said it.
What do you think about the GOP’s perennial opposition to gay rights?[/quote]
To be fair, most of the conservatives on IP are economic conservatives or libertarians and not social conservatives. Libertarian platforms are probably in direct opposition to these “misguided” (really wanna say “fascist”) positions, so I’m not sure anyone’s gonna come rescue the poor, retarded Texas GOP central soviet.
Sure, but anti-gay sentiment is an endemic problem in the GOP, and even if you’re a libertarian Republican, by voting for the GOP you’re voting against equal rights for all.
I suppose it depends on whether you rank economic policy higher or lower than social policy.
I myself care more about social policy than economic policy when I cast my vote, because I see the Dems and Pubs as essentially the same economically: both are corporatist parties.
[quote=“Chris”]Sure, but anti-gay sentiment is an endemic problem in the GOP, and even if you’re a libertarian Republican, by voting for the GOP you’re voting against equal rights for all.
I suppose it depends on whether you rank economic policy higher or lower than social policy.
I myself care more about social policy than economic policy when I cast my vote, because I see the Dems and Pubs as essentially the same economically: both are corporatist parties.[/quote]
I see where you’re coming from, but despite the fact that most of the democrats take millions too and support corporate control of government to an extent, they are not the party of that, many of them do it because it’s the only way to get the job, and most importantly, don’t you see a HUGE difference on economic policy between W and Obama? It’s huge man, even if it’s far far away from being good, it’s a start. The fact is that the rich in the US have tricked the poor but socially conservative in the US into thinking they’ll support conservative social policy in return for votes to make them richer and keep them in control, but despite some nasty setbacks - like lax gun ownership laws and allowing some states to ban abortion or remove evolution for school books - they haven’t lived up to most of the social rhetoric.
If the social conservatives could be persuaded that they can still live in their own morality without forcing it on others and at the same time increase their lot in life through quality jobs, job security, better schools, etc, the Republican party would collapse.
[quote=“Chris”]Sure, but anti-gay sentiment is an endemic problem in the GOP, and even if you’re a libertarian Republican, by voting for the GOP you’re voting against equal rights for all.
I suppose it depends on whether you rank economic policy higher or lower than social policy.
I myself care more about social policy than economic policy when I cast my vote, because I see the Dems and Pubs as essentially the same economically: both are corporatist parties.[/quote]
Once again Chris fails basic reading comprehension and is unable to say which rights the GOP denies homosexuals.
Twotongues:
Basically most Right wingers could care less about gays outside of gay marriage and that’s only because of what would come after gay marriage.
[quote=“TwoTongues”]If the social conservatives could be persuaded that they can still live in their own morality without forcing it on others and at the same time increase their lot in life through quality jobs, job security, better schools, etc, the Republican party would collapse.[/quote]You need to keep up with right wing news more the fiscal conservatives hate the socials especially after they got everything possible under Bush and turned their backs on the rampant corruption, out of control spending and tried to emulate democrat lite policies. Terry Schiavo ring any bells?
The libertarians are completely out there and tend to only talk about drug legalization and Ron Paul. 
[quote=“Okami”]You need to keep up with right wing news more the fiscal conservatives hate the socials especially after they got everything possible under Bush and turned their backs on the rampant corruption, out of control spending and tried to emulate democrat lite policies. Terry Schiavo ring any bells?
The libertarians are completely out there and tend to only talk about drug legalization and Ron Paul. [/quote]
I’ve got no doubt they hate them, but they realize that they need them to keep winning elections, and that’s why you see people like McCain running to the right socially before the elections even though it’s obvious they don’t believe the hype. And I’d argue that fiscal conservatives and libertarians are nearly identical platform wise - it’s just once they get elected and have to bring pork back to the home state, and have to toe the corporate line, and compromise to get any legislation passed, they drop the hard lines on the ideals. Actual libertarians - that is, members of a libertarian party or similar - haven’t had much success through the years because of their being outside of the two major parties (though there’s all this recent Tea Bagging stir, maybe things are about to change), so it’s hard to gauge how much they’ll change if they ever get into office.
The right to marry, for one.
[quote=“TwoTongues”][quote=“Okami”]You link to some dodgy online newspaper article that fails to link to the actual statement of the Texas Republican Party.
[/quote]
Yeah you’re right. So here it is:
http://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/FINAL_2010_STATE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf
and on their official website:
http://www.texasgop.org/inner.asp?z=6
Not quite left wing exaggeration:
[quote=“Texas GOP Platform”]Texas Sodomy Statutes – We oppose the legalization of sodomy. We demand that Congress exercise its authority
granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy.
Pornography – We urge our governmental bodies to enforce laws regarding all forms of pornography. We urge more
stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented
businesses. We oppose the sale of “Not Rated” (NR) movies and video games to minors.[/quote]
It goes on. And how can you say that this stuff isn’t right-wing ideology, of course it’s extreme right wing social ideology.[/quote]
Thanks.
BTW, when did the NY Daily News become some ‘dodgy online newspaper’ Okami?
Bottom line this puritan BS is fucked out and unrealistic. Trying to jam it down people’s throat is wrong and just plain dumb.
And for all you cats who say: “I could care less about this, I am a fiscal conservative, not a social conservative etc…” please stop it. Your group is in bed with those who promote this cracker-Taliban puritan ideology. In fact it is party platform. If it looks like a…and if it smells like a …
If you are gonna blame the left for PETA and protesters, you gotta defend and account for all the fucked up people in your camp.
:roflmao: Imagine the spike in crime when Billy Bob gets more gun rights, and less porn. 
Well, far be it from me to actually believe in the Gimpy Old Party as a whole cloth, but what this thread is all about is pure BS.
The ideas stated are PROPOSED additions to the Texas GOP Platform. Not actual parts of its ideology.
Maybe its just a bit journalistic jihad by Aliyah Shahid?
Maybe its just an embarrassing excursion in to another public display of being eat-up by the dumbass for those who want the readers of this thread to think this actually what the Texas GOP has as its platform?
Who knows.
Here is the Texas GOP website - texasgop.org/index.asp
Look carefully…you’ll see how these items are NOT listed as on its political platform.
Here is the link to the platform itself: 1888932-2946.ws/TexasGOP/E- … ATFORM.pdf
This particular proposal was voted down. Not even sent to committee for further discussion.
From the Texas GOP site:
[i]"The Republican philosophy is a true reflection of traditional Texas values. It is these values core Republican principles that will sustain Texas into the future and continue to make our State strong, prosperous and proud.
We support…
Strong Families
Families intent on giving their children the hope of a better tomorrow, the promise of a safe and secure today, and an appreciation and respect of yesterday.
Principled, Innovative Leadership
Principled leaders with an understanding of Texas’ heritage and a clear vision for Texas’ future. Leadership that is unwavering in the face of criticism, steadfast when confronted with adversity, and committed to building a better State.
Limited Government
A government that promotes policies to unlock individual potential and unleash economic growth. Government that does not try to be all things to all people.
Honest Compassion
A society assisting those in need rather than a government trying to solve every problem by just throwing more money at it.
Opportunity For All
The opportunity to chart one’s own course start a business, chase a dream, or build a life regardless of gender, race, or religion.
Quality Education
An educational system that prepares children for tomorrow’s workplace regardless of race, wealth or geographical location. Education is the bedrock of freedom and the gateway to opportunity.
Personal Responsibility
Individuals taking personal responsibility for their own actions and a criminal justice system based on this idea. With freedom comes responsibility.
Freedom
Freedom that is God given, affirmed by our Founding Fathers, articulated in the Declaration of Independence, and protected by the Constitution.
Rugged Individualism
The entrepreneurial spirit of the individual that continues to solidify Texas as a world economic
power."[/i]
Yeah…I can see how those ideals might be offensive to some specific groups…maybe furriners without a clue… :loco:
See this is what happens when you only read Daily Kos and not Redstate or at least Jim Geraghty(campaign spot blog) you just hopelessly appear willfully ignorant.
Let’s take the first one from Chris, the right for gay people to marry. It has failed at every referendum and ballot initiative that it has been put on whether the state was red, blue or purple. It failed in California due to the minority vote as African-Americans oppose it 70-30. I doubt the numbers look better amongst Hispanics or Asians in the US. Your more likely to see pictures of me buggering Chris than you are to see Chris or the online gay community deal with this very real fact. Those crickets chirping in Chris’s next post will be over this issue.
DD opposes govt banning of sodomy which has no constitutional protections yet has no problem with govt denying people gun rights that are protected by the 2nd amendment and doesn’t understand why those gun rights are so important. It’s on pages 46-48 of the recent supreme court decision iirc, but you’re a racist so I doubt you will read it.
[quote=“Deuce Dropper”]Your group is in bed with those who promote this cracker-Taliban puritan ideology. In fact it is party platform.[/quote]The difference is we respect constitutional protections and we don’t execute people without judicial review based on laws decided on by the legislative branch enforced by the executive branch. Your ignorance of the basic functions of govt would damn us to some 3rd world Latin American caudillo-style regime that tramples individual rights in the name of political party power for the self-enrichment of the politically connected. I suggest you read the Declaration of Independence to get a better understanding.
It’s not “Billy Bob” that has to worry about gun rights, but the law-abiding minorities trapped in crap neighborhoods without the means to defend themselves. Take a map, a few Google searches, and check the minority make up of places that ban guns. You’re a racist cracker and wouldn’t understand that though.