TFETP - Applying for work permit

I’ve seen too many job postings over the years to remember who was explicitly not accepting sub licenses and who didn’t care.

I’m not surprised TFETP doesn’t and apparently never did care, given how much they’ve lowered their standards all together (just need to work in an MOE school for a year and you don’t need a license at all, as I’ve mentioned, for example)

absolutely should be C1. B2 is totally competent, but why hire foreign teachers if they’re testing just as well as your local ones :joy:

The local teachers I’ve met had great English, but I suppose totally depends. If B2 is the basis, I suppose it could swing from really competent speakers to those who barely squeaked out a B2.

Jesus, that’s dire.

One thing I found about the assistant role, the “upgrade” to proper teacher role isn’t guaranteed as far as I can tell, and may require moving to a different school. But I’m not 100% on this.

I’ve never seen a job posting for a bilingual school in the US that doesn’t require an ACTFL OPI and WPT score of at least “Superior”, which is ~C1, for all teachers. Basically, either you’re an actual native speaker or you’re effectively a native speaker if you’re getting hired to work in those schools in the US. American schools also just hire teachers to be teachers if they’re qualified. They don’t play games with “real” (local) teachers and fake (foreign) teachers. In Taiwan, the local teachers call all the shots and it’s rare for an FET to even be welcome to point out that what’s being taught (even what they are required to teach!) is stupidly incorrect English. I have to imagine that world language teachers in Europe are held to similar standards. If you want your students to be fluent in a language, you need people who know how to teach the language and how to use the language. If you lack one or both of those things, there’s only so much you can teach your students (very little, in the case of Taiwan).

The problem is that they aren’t true B2. They’re Taiwan’s own invented version of supposedly aligned to CEFR standards without actually testing to that standard.

Just remember that actual schools in the state of Illinois are not necessarily accepting that sub license. Just schools in places like Taiwan that just want a US-passport holder with the piece of paper. In the US, you can get away with an emergency sub license for maybe a school year before you have to start completing actual licensing requirements to continue working.

Everyone I know who came as an MOE ETA stayed at their same school for the following year as an FET. I think staying or not might come down to whether or not the school bothered to apply for the significantly larger amount of money involved in having an FET, along with whether or not the school liked the person.

Yup. I believe you’re bang on correct there. However, the buxiban and private school market hasn’t opened its doors fully to non-native speakers - possibly just a matter of time. It’s interesting to compare the situation to what has happened in Thailand where there’s a two-scale system with Filipino teachers being employed but at a lower pay grade.