The Depraved World Of Jihadi Child Porn

Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4959002.ece

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Here is a small extract from a news paper report I have Highlighted key works for those who like to skim

Besides their well-known penchant for anti-Semitism, misogyny and nihilistic violence, Muslim extremists are also gaining a disturbing reputation among British security agencies as [color=#FF0000]collectors of child pornography.[/color]

According to a report on The Times website last week, police in Great Britain are discovering that their investigations into Muslim terrorism are leading them into the [color=#FF0000]depraved world of child sexual exploitation[/color]. The reverse is also occurring with child protection officers encountering people who are “preparing to carry out terrorist acts.”

At one time, the link between the two deviant behaviours was considered so strong that security officials considered establishing an anti-terrorism project involving child welfare experts, but never followed through because Scotland Yard’s hands were too full with other terrorist investigations.

But demand is growing in Great Britain for the setting up of such a task force that could help security agencies understand the terrorist mindset and prevent future attacks.

My 2 pence worth

To me there is really no surprise that these men lust after young girls after all their very own prophet Mohammed himself was a blood thirsty Paedophile.
Islam seems to fully endorse child brides marrying adult men has this is deemed aceptable cause of the teaching of the paedophile prophet Mohamed.
In Islam it is illegal to have sex with your child bride as long as she is not under nine years old
but Sodomising and the Muslim practice of thighing is please see youtube link http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=_RMUyAy9zU0.

Islam the religion of peace has outdone its self once again

They’re forbidden to have sex with brides aged 9 and over?

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KILL, KILL, KILL! BLOODY BARBARIANS! KILL 'EM ALL!
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was quite a funny mistyping, actually.

I too am glad to have done better than my elf, and have moved this to the open forum where it will be far better off than if it were cowering over in the religion corner.

bigtone, what documentable evidence, as opposed to rants from someone’s blog, do you have that Islam specifically condones pederasty? Note that pederasty refers to sex with pre-pubescent children, as opposed to pedophilia, which refers to sexual attraction towards pre-pubescent children.

Note that I’m asking about the official teachings of Islam, and not the traditional practices, either currently or in the distant past, of areas which happen to also be Muslim.

Second, what evidence do you have demonstrating that the acceptable age at which marriages were prearranged in Mohammed’s culture differ from those in other areas at that time?

Third, are you looking to start an open-minded discussion with other posters here, or just a billboard on which to splash your consistently themed anti-religious messages? If only the latter, then in this moderator’s opinion you should really go start your own blog, and not keep bombarding Forumosa with the stuff.

[quote=“Dragonbones”]bigtone, what documentable evidence, as opposed to rants from someone’s blog, do you have that Islam specifically condones pederasty? Note that pederasty refers to sex with pre-pubescent children, as opposed to pedophilia, which refers to sexual attraction towards pre-pubescent children.

Note that I’m asking about the official teachings of Islam, and not the traditional practices, either currently or in the distant past, of areas which happen to also be Muslim.

Second, what evidence do you have demonstrating that the acceptable age at which marriages were prearranged in Mohammed’s culture differ from those in other areas at that time?

Third, are you looking to start an open-minded discussion with other posters here, or just a billboard on which to splash your consistently themed anti-religious messages? If only the latter, then in this moderator’s opinion you should really go start your own blog, and not keep bombarding Forumosa with the stuff.[/quote]

@Dragonbones

Try googling or reading the hadith
you will find sufficient evidence regarding this matter.
please check again no where did I mention prearranged marriages. (children are sold or used in negotiations or used to pay off debts there are a wide range of sources if you search.
This practice is still going on in this day and age.
Mohammed him self was a kiddy fiddler so Muslims past and present find it acceptable to marry and sexually abuse under-age girls. This is nothing more than blatant legalised paedophilia.
Only last month a 13 year old rape victim was stoned to death by 50 muslims in somalia in a stadium with another 1000 Muslims applauding and watching on.

[quote=“bigtone”]@Dragonbones

Try googling or reading the hadith
you will find sufficient evidence regarding this matter.[/quote]

I’m aware of the existence of Google. You’re the one coming on here making inflammatory remarks, and I’m asking YOU to back them up with evidence. If you’re incapable of that, it doesn’t reflect well on you.

Furthermore, you have not answered my question: [quote]are you looking to start an open-minded discussion with other posters here, or just a billboard on which to splash your consistently themed anti-religious messages?[/quote]

[quote=“bigtone”]@Dragonbones

Try googling or reading the hadith
you will find sufficient evidence regarding this matter.[/quote]

Firstly, I believe DB wants to see evidence that you are sufficiently informed on the subject to hold an intelligible and rational view, and to articulate it to others. Telling people to Google does not constitute such evidence.

Secondly, the Hadith are an extremely complicated subject within Islam, especially since:

  • They constitute oral traditions attributed to Muhammad or his early followers, as distinct from the teachings of the Q’ran (which are considered divinely inspired)

  • Their authenticity is not universally acknowledged even among Muslims, and debates continue as to which are authentic (the Shi’a Muslim sect does not acknowledge the traditional Hadith canon)

  • Many (perhaps most), Muslims today do not recognize the Hadith as representative of ‘official’ Muslim teaching

I believe DB is asking you to present evidence for this claim of yours.

The rape of an underage girl does not constitute underage marriage or the legalized sexual abuse of an underage girl. Nor does it necessarily constitute ‘blatant legalised paedophilia’. Clearly this act was actually illegal, as Amnesty International announces she was falsely and illegally convicted with adultery. The BBC report gives a very different picture to the on you paint:

[quote=“BBC”]The witness said people crowding round to see the execution said it was “awful”.

“People were saying this was not good for Sharia law, this was not good for human rights, this was not good for anything.”

But no-one tried to stop the Islamist officials, who were armed, the witness said. He said one boy was shot in the confusion.[/quote]

Try googling or reading the hadith…
there are a wide range of sources if you search…[/quote]
Don’t tell people to “do a search”. The onus isn’t on us to prove your argument. That’s your job. :unamused:

Umm … actually, in a lot of cases it’s not girls…
There are numerous accounts of Coalition troops from the current war encountering young boys being kept/used for sexual purposes by extremists from Afghanistan & Pakistan (did you see/read “the Kite Runner”? Not uncommon).
Wasn’t gonna go look for “evidence”, but based on the most recent posts, see several articles here from the likes of Los Angeles Times, etc.

The logic is apparently that the Koran forbids sexual action/contact/thoughts with women. It doesn’t mention boys or other men…or livestock (this from numerous separate sources…there are infrared gun-camera videos…not gonna go look for those either)… as a “moral” means to fulfill those desires.

I think when it does occur it’s more a cultural practice than a strictly religious one - I don’t know how prevalent it is in the Arab world or, say, Indonesia.

In parts of Africa they’ve taken to raping young girls because some crazy bastard declared that was the cure for AIDS, and that condoms were an American trick to spread the disease … Brilliant.

I don’t think you can blame Islam for the mindless raping & murder that has been going on in Africa for decades. The fundamental problem there is lack of education and limited resources, hindered by a complete unwillingness to leave Bronze-Age tribal power struggles behind. Some of that you can blame on hate-mongering Imams, but a lot of it comes down to the cultural foundations of what are still essentially subsistence-farming, Biblical-era societies. Tribal affiliation and power are stronger motivations than religion in many cases.

@Dragonbones

As I said try google and checking the references in the Hadith
its not that difficult I’m sure you don’t need me to provide links for you.
Well ok just the one as im feeling in a good mood http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm

As for your other question I post what I post what I see would be a good debatable topic close to the line or not. its up to people what interpretations they make of it. I notice that lots find it offensive means I must be pretty close to the truth(we all know the truth hurts).
If people wish to reply in an idiotic manner as some have then what does that prove( we can continue this conversation in private might be more appropriate).

@bigtone: not happening to forbid is not the same thing as condoning. The Bible does not forbid certain things that we would find immoral or which are illegal nowadays. That does not justify saying “Christianity allows/encourages…”

It is also meaningful to distinguish between ancient mores and modern practices, as well as differences between rules and practices of various forms of a religion.

That’s what I suspect. Just because the people doing something are adherents to a particular religion does not mean the religion is to blame for the behavior. I suspect that most of the lynch mobs in America’s past were nominally Christian, but their racist murders should not be blamed on Christianity.

Bingo.

If I call someone’s virtuous mother a whore, I’m sure they would find it offensive, and that has nothing to do with its veracity. Your logic is puerile.

No thanks.

Atheism ‘allows’ child porn. Or does it? Oooh!

[quote=“bigtone”] Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4959002.ece
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[quote=“bigtone”]My 2 pence worth

To me there is really no surprise that these men lust after young girls after all their very own prophet Mohammed himself was a blood thirsty Paedophile.
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One in 25 catholic priests in the US is/was involved in screwing children based on criminal and civil suits filed and priests named. And let’s not forget the recently arrested televangelist Tony Alamo (September 2008) charged with both child porn and transporting children across state lines for sex.

People get into “religious leadership” for the three big aphrodisiacs: power, money and sex. Pedophilia and hebephilia are not a matter of which religion is worst, it’s religion period. Without the absolitism of religion, one can’t rationalize such behaviour or get the victims to capitulate because “it’s what god wants”.

[quote=“bigtone”] Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4959002.ece

@:*
Here is a small extract from a news paper report I have Highlighted key works for those who like to skim

Besides their well-known penchant for anti-Semitism, misogyny and nihilistic violence, Muslim extremists are also gaining a disturbing reputation among British security agencies as [color=#FF0000]collectors of child pornography.[/color]

According to a report on The Times website last week, police in Great Britain are discovering that their investigations into Muslim terrorism are leading them into the [color=#FF0000]depraved world of child sexual exploitation[/color]. The reverse is also occurring with child protection officers encountering people who are “preparing to carry out terrorist acts.”

At one time, the link between the two deviant behaviours was considered so strong that security officials considered establishing an anti-terrorism project involving child welfare experts, but never followed through because Scotland Yard’s hands were too full with other terrorist investigations.

But demand is growing in Great Britain for the setting up of such a task force that could help security agencies understand the terrorist mindset and prevent future attacks.

My 2 pence worth

To me there is really no surprise that these men lust after young girls after all their very own prophet Mohammed himself was a blood thirsty Paedophile.
Islam seems to fully endorse child brides marrying adult men has this is deemed aceptable cause of the teaching of the paedophile prophet Mohamed.
In Islam it is illegal to have sex with your child bride as long as she is not under nine years old
but Sodomising and the Muslim practice of thighing is please see youtube link http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=_RMUyAy9zU0.

Islam the religion of peace has outdone its elf once again[/quote]
I hope you are are a CIA spy or an internet cafe troll, 'cos otherwise someone is going to get fatwah on yo ass. Beware your internet address! :no-no:

No they can’t, so they just find other ways to rationalize it and get the victims to capitulate. Is there a reason why your posts consistently lack logical coherence and rational argumentation?

Yes, yes, you’re right, all religious leaders everywhere are all the same, all over. It’s all the same. There is no difference between Tony Alamo and the Pope and the Dalai Lama. No difference at all. They are all pedophile bastards.

No, there is no point in evaluating and distinguishing between different religions and their leaders and followers. Because they are all the same, right? Let’s not look too closely at how certain religions exploit people, and certain religions help people. Let’s ignore the difference between Catholic missionaries all over the world, aiding people like Mother Teresa did (and BTW, I am NOT a Catholic). Let’s ignore Florence Nightangle, the Protestant Deist (more or less; she had no serious religious views), but she believed passionately in humanity. I could mention a hundred more examples of intelligent, compassionate, sincerely religious people.

Myself, I am a half agnostic, half deist. I don’t know and I don’t pretend to know. But I FEEL that there is something more. Every intelligent man has escaped the bonds of traditional, organized religion. Haven’t you? That freedom is exhilariting at first…but then you realize you have do face God – or whatever IT is – on your own merits. Much easier to fold yourself as sheep within the folds of organized religion.

I realize that I’m not making sense. But once you start getting philosophical, none of it makes much sense – and yeah, I’ve read Spinoza and Hume and the ancient Greeks. Philosophy is like that - you start spinning around in your own head, and it gets…weird.

That’s what I say to people who want to do drugs. I say, “Do you want to really? REALLY? Seriously expand your minds?” That doesn’t include smoking a joint and listening to Pink Floyd. If you seriously want to blow your mind, sit down and try to read Stephen Hawking. Don’t do drugs or alcohol. Try and read this guy. I consider myself a pretty smart guy and I understood about, uh, 2% of what he was saying in A Brief History of Time. I mean, shut the hell up about psychedelics, try and fucking read a goddamn book, you morons! I’m with Chuck D of Public Enemy on this, “She Watch Channel Zero,” a book is a kryptonite to a niggah! (as Chris Rock put it) You’ll get more psychedelia out of reading Aldous Huxley’s novels than listening to the Doors.

Well, and there you go. Most alcoholics and drug addicts, their ideas are extremely banal. I am neither - I’m just extremely eccentric. A walking, socially functioning Syd Barrett, y’know? There were these people called Flannery O’Connor (I would have married her, if she hadn’t died 10 years before I was born) and William Faulkner and Tennessee Williams, who were called eccentrics and beatniks and weirdos, but had something they had to say. They were all from Mississippi. I’m a neighbor from Arkansas. But I feel a serious kinship with these lost souls. My grandmother picked apples in Mississippi, she was born there.

(Snaps out of it) Well, there you go. All of our grandparents were mere farmers two generations ago. We all have to adjust to the modern world. The industrial revolution didn’t hit everywhere at once, you know!

We’re all just people, and we are all just wanting the same basic things. It’s just a matter of advancing technology into primitive territories.

Do you seriously think that any aboriginal kid in Brazil in the rain forest is thinking, “Ugh! I can barely see! But these eye-glasses these people from beyond the pale, are an abomination! I reject them in the name of my sacred cultural purity!”

Um, no. He’s accepting those glasses and thanking whatever god he has, for the gift of sight. That he would never have had as an unspoiled caveman in the Amazon.

A couple of generations ago, a guy like me, who is legally blind, would have been dead before I was 10 years old. My entire life, I owe to modern technology. And so do most of you.

Sheeet! You understood 2% of A Brief History of Time? I understood 0.2% of it: The biography. And I have an unquestionable advantage in terms of halluconogen consumption. Good for you Quentin. Please teach me about black holes and Dark Matter. Because it does matter. I have had the theory of relativity explained to me by 9 year-olds before and I still can’t grasp it. I must be relatively THICK! Physics just eludes me. Need more drugs, yum yum! :smiley:

I was exagerrating. Actually, now that I think about it, I didn’t understand a damn thing about that book. I sorta understood a little bit, but…damn, I really need to re-read that little, LITTLE 200-page book. It’s ONLY 200 pages. I CAN do it. What’s wrong with me? Am I stupid? Why can’t I understand this book?

Let me repeat my self-help mantra:

I am not a retard just because I can’t understand Stephen Hawking.

I am not a total fucking idiot because I can’t understand A Brief History of Time.

I am not an idiot.

I am not stupid.

I am not a retard.

I am not…AAAAA…RRRRRR…GGGGG…HHHHHH…!!!..HULK SMASH!

[quote=“jimipresley”]
I hope you are are a CIA spy or an internet cafe troll, 'cos otherwise someone is going to get fatwah on yo ass. Beware your internet address! :no-no:[/quote]

@jimipresly

That would not suprise me one bit considering some of the fatwahs that have been issued

Fatwa on Micky Mouse fatwa on mickey mouse
You would be amazed how many death threats i have had on various forums from the Religion of Peace

as for the internet address dont you just love anonymous proxy servers and 3rd party routers :stuck_out_tongue: