The Guardian on Taiwan

An interesting article on Taiwan and Kinmen. But, I can’t help but feel the Guardian has chosen sides, and it’s not with Taiwan.

Imagine coming to Taiwan and writing a story that ends with the quote:

"Unification is a matter of time.”

Really, Guardian? Is that how you feel?

Yes, I know it’s a quote from someone that the reporter talked to…but it’s cherry picked to end the story on a very depressing note.

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In the old street of Sha Mei, a shop owner in his 60s, who asked not to be named, offered tea as his three-year-old grandson ran laps around us. Peaceful unification, or at least the status quo, was the best way forward, he said.

“You live your life, I live mine. I don’t feel much about the threat – we are normal people, it’s out of our control … Unification is a matter of time.”

Quoting a 60-year-old who lives there.

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Cannot see any fault with the article. The Guardian is not the Taiwan News specialising in propagating click-bait propaganda. And the Guardian is not taking any position here, but just reporting on a situation. Moreoever, the Guardian overall is certainly not in favour of China

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Anyone who thinks China won’t eventually gobble up Taiwan… whether it takes a decade or a century… is sadly fooling themselves. Depressing? Yes. But realistic imo. I don’t see an issue with it.

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Probable? Yes but not a foregone conclusion. Times change, you never know what the future holds. What if Chinese economy crashes or/and Taiwanese culture undergoes irreversible changes. Personally, I think if China doesn’t absorb Taiwan in the next 20 to 25 years, it never will. They’ll just give up.

The Guardian has been a discredited newspaper.for quite a while now after they were caught lying.

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They couldn’t even if they tried.

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You don’t see an issue with it with all that’s going on in Xinjiang and Tibet ? Nice to know you are ok with that :roll_eyes:

They could. Just a question of whether they’re willing to pay the political and economic price or not.

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Wake me up in a century.

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Ffs, where did I say I’m okay with it? :roll_eyes: If I say something I don’t want to happen is a possibility, how is that the same as approving of it? Don’t put words in people’s mouths. There’s a lot of heads buried in sand in this thread. And if you speak a simple truth, like yes, China is an existential threat to Taiwan, people jump on you and try to reframe what you’re saying. At least this joker did.

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A century is a long time for things to not change, it’s also a good window to be wrong in, since one would be probably dead at the end of it.

I get the basics of the thought process but people can’t predict events 5 or 10 years in the future, let alone a century. A lot of prognostication in media today is basically trying to forecast the distant future with shorter term trends.

Just to add, for example you could easily pen an article saying that sooner or later China will own the world and everyone not Chinese will be in a prison camp.

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That was a shocking read by the other poster. In the history of the Flob I can think of only one poster who was up for unification.

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The article doesn’t even talk about Taiwan proper, it’s about Kinmen and Matsu.

The Guardian WAS a big selling paper in the UK I used to buy.

Became toooo left even for the lefty’s as volume sales went down cost to buy went up so even less buyers.

Guardian does do some great articles but is to much up its own arse.

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Yeah I read the Guardian since I was 15-16 and everyday. But it just went too too woke at some point

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Do you really think any aggression against Kinmen and Matsu would stop there?

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I don’t mind that its lefty, I mind that they became activists. Just report the damn news.

I think it was that sentence.

He obviously meant with the article not the takeover.

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