The Hiking Thread (2007-2008)

Kate, hope you are ok now, that sounds really scary.

The weekend up in Cloud9 was great as well, had some swimms and lots of food/drink. I noticed that the river changed a bit up there, so want to scout it soon for the new seasons runs with the tubes.

We should think of doing something up in Cloud9, kind of an “forumosa outdoor happy hour” with option to make it a whole weekend for the enthusiasts.

I also promise to give everyone longer notice next year, so that I don’t end up almost alone again. Just kidding, good to hear you all had a great weekend, so did I.

Cheers and see you soon on a hike or somewhere else outdoors.

kate, I also hope you get better soon. Too many injuries for you lately.

mingshah, what’s the situation with C9? Are you running it now? Still have inner tubing and such?

Yes, I hope the wound is healing well and not hurting or restricting you too much, Kate.

So what’s happening with Cloud 9 now? Has someone else taken over running it as a campsite, and is the river-tubing going to continue this summer? Are you planning to organize the tubing?

That sounds like a great idea.

Hey, my weekend was nothing to shout about - I spent at least four fifths of it slaving away at my computer, on Saturday and Sunday.

Ha, you got the questions in just before I did!

But what are you doing up and online so early in the morning?

And how about your epic trek across Taiwan? Did you return unchiggered and otherwise unscathed, and when will you be regaling us with the tales of the trail?

Ha, you got the questions in just before I did!

But what are you doing up and online so early in the morning?

And how about your epic trek across Taiwan? Did you return unchiggered and otherwise unscathed, and when will you be regaling us with the tales of the trail?[/quote]

So early? I have been getting up at 5.30am on average for the last week so this is rather late I must say. Though I am loathe to admit it, I did get up one morning at 4am and then proceed to walk for 11 hours (21km) over very rough trail that concluded with a km of landslides to negotiate. My hiking partners deserve even more praise for getting up at 3am one day and hiking 13 hours to the top of Yushan and back (much of it in snow!). I declined as I did not realize then I was made of sterner stuff.

I’ll post on my blog (and here) later in the week. I’m waiitng for my pics to be sent on dvd from Tainan (Richard borrowed everyone’s cf card to get all the pics on 1 or 2 dvds).

In short, it was a week that has forever made a mountain hiker out of me as much as a jungle trekker. Other than the one long section of rough trail, the old Batongguan route is in great shape with long wide sections that were cut directly into the sides of the mountains still intact. Where the old traversing route no longer exists, new trails have been established. The forestry department did a knockout job reparing this. Though long, anyone could follow the route and if you are prepared for one long day on the middle, it is possible to stay in cabins (most of which are nice A-frame type structures, with solar lights and water supplies) the whole way. It is also possible to extend the hike up to 3 weeks by heading down to Jiaming Lake near the end and then looping back up and across to the Mabolashi Trail. Richard and I talked about possibly doing all three trails together (the Batongguan, South Section II - now known as S2 - and the Mabolashi), hiring Bunun porters to drop off food every 5 days or so.

In any case, the changing landscape on the Batongguan was one of the joys of the trip. We started in thick sub-tropical forest, where broad leaves littered the trail, proceeded up into coniferous forest where needles softened the ground, and up to alpine meadows of low Yushan cane where sambar deer grunted in the distance. We then descended through a thick leech-infested rainforest, back through coniferous forest, and finally into a setting much like the Red River Valley trail in Wulai, but with a more open forest and wider views over the river valley and surrounding mountains. As a special bonus the end of the trail on the last day was lit with hundreds of fireflies as darkness fell.

Most of the Japanese stations along the trail have been reduced to old stone walls, but some of these have an Indian Jones look about them. I hope some of the pics I took of them in the thick atmospheric fog turn out. Interestingly, most of the stations are littered with old beer bottles, most of which are actually from the Japanese era. I brought back a small indigo bottle. Next time I will bring back a Jap-era beer bottle.

Speaking of litter, I was so please to discover that the trail system is immaculately clean. There is a bit of trash around the cabins, as you would expect (thought most everyone is great about removing their garbage and the Bunun porters insist that their groups do so). But the trail itself is wonderfully free of bottles and silver paper and old bags.

It was also remarkably free of other hikers. We didn’t see anyone on the trail for 3 days near the end, though we did share the cabin with another group who were hiking in the opposite direction. At Dafen cabin we shared the facilities with graduate students from Pingdong Uni who were doing research on mammals in the area. Dafen is well known as a bear reserve, and numbers are said to be easily in the hundreds. No one hunts here.

One night, as I was lying in my sleeping bag, I wondered what I would do when I got back to Taiwan. Then I realized I was in Taiwan, but that being on this trail was like stepping away from it all.

There were five of us in the group. Two were geophysicists from England who now live in Saigon. It was great to have such learned people along who, without irony, could look at a huge mushroom growing on a tree and say “Now that is a brachis fungi to beat all brachis fungi.” Or, “As we came around the bend in the trail we saw that the rock had changed from loose shale to quartz mica schists so we knew there weren’t going to be any landslides in this section.”

The couple were in their late 50s and have been all over the world trekking (including Antarctica). They enjoyed hiking in Taiwan tremendously (and were fascinated by the geology here) and plan to come back in the fall for more. I think any notion that Taiwan’s mountains just aren’t up to world standards can be laid to rest.

Carrying 7-8 days worth of food was not as bad as I expected, though my pack was far too heavy for the first day, which involved 8 hours of uphill climb. I would try to reduce the weight by 4-5 kilos next time. I will probably also need a bigger pack for this kind of long trek. But overall, it is possible to carry plenty of food and eat a balanced diet wtih a proper ratio of fats, carbs and proteins. I actually came back 2k heavier.

Well, I’ve written too much. More to come on the blog.

Brilliant stuff, MM!

That’s remarkable!

Thanks for the excellent report, MM - looking forward to your photoblog!

Hans

Ha, you got the questions in just before I did!

But what are you doing up and online so early in the morning?

And how about your epic trek across Taiwan? Did you return unchiggered and otherwise unscathed, and when will you be regaling us with the tales of the trail?[/quote]

Wow, nice to hear everyone wants me to overtake it but no, I am not. The actual situation is that Andre and his Taiwanese partner Kingkong (the Kayaking guy) still own the place and even Andre is in China now the place is still up.
It is more up to the people now to keep things clean on there own but besides that it should run normal as Kingkong will be up there more often now.
The tubing is still on, all the stuff is still there and I will help out on guiding a bit but I am trying to go back to Austria for a month in July so somebody else has to step up and volunteer for that time as I will be somewhere in the Austrian alps or soaking in one of the lakes there.

So if anybody wants to do something you can either contact me or use the contact details on the webpage. As I said, I want to do a scouting run rather soon for the longer stretch so if anybody wants to join in you are welcome but be aware that it will be with more stops to check the new layout of the river.

MM, thats a great story, wish I could join something like this once too but would be still a bit under equiped for that I guess. Really need to get more out there again and take my camera with me for some good shots.

Omni, we really should think of the “Forumosa outdoor HH”, just need to see how and when we can do it and I guess I will need help to lift it than. Ideas are welcome. :wink:

Fantastic, MM! Thank you for sharing about your hike! I am green with envy, but enjoying living vicariously, anyway.
I would love to do this hike. Just gotta get a bit more fit.
… well, a lot more fit :wink:

One of the hiking members has put up some pics and a little comment on his blog. Mine will come next week. I still haven’t got my pics yet (delay in mail delivery).

shandinglu.org/blog

Sounds fantastic. Can’t wait to see your blog entry, MM.

How did the squishy bowl work out? I found some at REI. Should I buy a set?

[quote=“Chris”]Sounds fantastic. Can’t wait to see your blog entry, MM.

How did the squishy bowl work out? I found some at REI. Should I buy a set?[/quote]

Yes, buy a set. They are excellent. If nothing else they provide endless chatter on the trail and around the stove at night.

They’re also fun to fondle on those lonely nights. :rainbow:

I had few accidents in a row lately, which made me unable to go hiking for weeks. I think now I am ready for hiking during weekends but I need some rehap hikes before taking 8-10 hours hikes. Can any forumosan recommend some hiking trails?

I’m glad to hear you’re more or less back to sound hiking condition, Kate.

I’ve been too damn busy to spend anywhere near as much time out and about in the hills as I’m used to and need. And with the gym and pool downstairs having closed last month, I’ve been getting awfully unfit and flabby, doing not much more than a daily half-hour swim in the river as exercise. Having remained at 66/67 kilograms for as long as I can remember, I’ve ballooned up to over 70 kg in just the last three weeks!

So drastic action is called for, and I’ve got to get myself back into properly active mode double pronto. I’ve joined a new gym today, will be taking up cycling again as soon as I can get the bicycle I want, and must step up my time spent hiking and swimming no matter how much work is piled up on my desk.

Last Saturday, at least, I got a good session of exercise along the Jiajiuliao stream and trail. I hiked briskly about 6.5 km (to where the trail turns away from the stream), bushwhacked down to the water and river-traced back downstream for a couple of hours to the waterfall pool (I’ve never river-traced that section before, and it took longer and was harder than I’d expected), had a good swim in the pool, then ran most of the way back to the road. It provided a good all-round workout in lovely surroundings, but because of my recent lack of exercise, it left me with quite a few aches and pains the next couple of days.

BTW, MM, Kate and guys, now that April is here, are you interested in making plans for a Friday/Saturday trip to do that river-trace organized by Aboriginals somewhere near Hualien, which we talked about last year? What’s the name of the place again?

Thank you, Omni. I am feeling better even though my arm’s strength is good enough. I have some difficulty to ride my scooter; otherwise I would go Pinglin to find a flat trail built along Nanshisi yesterday. I will try it again this weekend. I am good taking a walk or doing a little bit climbing in mountains now. That river tracing trip in Hualian is in 黃金峽谷.

Hi all,

How about a little hike tomorrow around Pingxi? We won’t do the crags but a bit of the backcountry behind that area. Very fresh and lovely natural trails, hardly used at all.

It’ll be a few hours, nothing too strenuous.

I know Omni is intererested. How about a 9am meet at Muzha MRT?

Kate, are you feeling better enough to head out into the hills? Hope so.

Good, good! I will be there. :slight_smile:

Yes, count me in.

Any estimate on return time?

I would love to go, but have some afternoon plans (starting at 1:30). Looks like I won’t make this one.
Have a lovely time!

[quote=“kage”]Any estimate on return time?

I would love to go, but have some afternoon plans (starting at 1:30). Looks like I won’t make this one.
Have a lovely time![/quote]

Return time wouldn’t be too late: 1 or 2pm. We’ll get there at 9.30am, hike for a few hours, then return. Omni can’t stay too long either.