The Impeachment Inquiry and other DOJ Investigations of Filthy Joe Biden Thread

Well, if you’re familiar with business, a lot of it is related to image and prestige.

I own a business. Do you? I don’t pay people large sums of money unless there’s a tangible return.

So how precisely did Hunter Biden boost Burisma’s “image and prestige”? Can you explain what tangible benefits the company could realistically gain from Hunter’s “image and prestige”?

Why would Burisma hire Hunter, hardly a household name in the world of politics and international energy, over a high-profile, well-connected person with experience in one or both?

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WARSAW, Poland - Aleksander Kwasniewski, a former Polish president who is on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, said Thursday that Hunter Biden was indeed chosen to join its advisory board because of his name. He said that is simply how the world of business works.

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But Kwasniewski insisted in an interview with The Associated Press that Biden was an active board member who helped the company and that he never used his relationship with his father, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, to further the company’s interests.

“I understand that if someone asks me to be part of some project it’s not only because I’m so good, it’s also because I am Kwasniewski and I am a former president of Poland,” he said. “And this is all interconnected. No-names are a nobody. Being Biden is not bad. It’s a good name.”

Kwasniewski also said Burisma members never tried to use Hunter Biden to curry favor with the administration of Barack Obama when Joe Biden was vice president.

“He was a normal member of this group,” he said. “We didn’t ask him — and he never said anything — about his father.”

I dunno man, call them and ask. I posted an article of why they did it, from their own mouth.

None of which has anything to do with any evidence of anything, getting back on track. :running_man:

Aleksander Kwasniewski, a former Polish president who is on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma

:rofl:

“I understand that if someone asks me to be part of some project it’s not only because I’m so good, it’s also because I am Kwasniewski and I am a former president of Poland,” he said.

Is Hunter a former president? Has he ever held elected office? Without the benefit of Wikipedia, can you tell us what Hunter Biden did professionally?

“He was a normal member of this group,” he said. “We didn’t ask him — and he never said anything — about his father.”

Do you honestly believe this?

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Yeah, because that’s how the business world works at that level. Connections, faces, perception. That’s how it goes in the big time.

Why did Hunter partner with a Chinese party-owned energy firm though private equity?

I thought the left is against Big Oil and Capitalism .

When Hunter gets no votes in two weeks, rest assured you’ll be able to gloat for sure. :sweat_smile:

And if they told you they were paying Hunter $80,000/month to advise them on the creation of a time machine, would you blindly accept that as being legitimate?

Do you do business at “that level”?

Here’s a report about director salaries.

$80,000/month, or $960,000/year, which is what Hunter was being paid, is over 3x the average salary for a non-employee director of a US publicly traded company. And usually the directors of US publicly traded companies are experienced in the industries in which the companies they serve operate.

Do you think energy companies in the former Soviet bloc pay a handsome premium to the inexperienced sons and daughters of high-level politicians to serve on their boards with no expectations other than that they smile and sign autographs?

Occam’s razor tells us that the simplest explanation is usually the most likely.

So let’s make this easy: Burisma was a troubled Ukrainian energy company whose oligarch owner was under investigation for money laundering. Joe Biden, the US Vice President is taking the lead on the US relationship with Ukraine in 2014 and in April of that year, his son, with no experience in energy or international affairs, is coincidentally hired to be a board member at Burisma for $80,000/month along with his business partner, Devon Archer, who incidentally was later convicted of defrauding an Indian tribe out of the proceeds of bond sales.

“In the big time”, you need to connect the dots and fortunately, here, this is easier than an entry-level Lego set.

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With all due respect, if you don’t think hire-by-association is incredibly common at that level of money, I think you have no idea what you’re talking about.

With all due respect, do you operate at “that level of money”? Do you or have you ever owned a business? Have you ever done business in a country where bribery and corruption are commonplace?

You keep repeating this hire by association line of thinking while apparently failing to understand what is actually going on. You don’t hire the son of [important person] just for the last name; you hire him for access to [important person] and [important person’s] important connections.

I agree with mups that Hunter Biden got special treatment because of his name. If his name was Hunter Trump he’d be facing serious jail time now if he refused to roll over on his pops.

Rudy:“The chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50.”

If Rudy Giuliani says this about his own source, that’s good enough for me.

“My guess is that George Soros is behind this counter-offensive… because he wants to create a socialist country,” Giuliani baselessly alleged. “He’d like to see us collapse and see us taken over by the international… whatever.”

I suspect the words he was about to say were “Jewish Conspiracy”, but he managed to choke that back, realizing that wouldn’t sound too good.

Why don’t you show him some examples?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-suharto-rollsroyce/suharto-denies-rolls-royce-bribery-allegations-idUSBRE9AO0BY20131125

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/01/17/2182543/ft-opening-quote-rolls-royce-agrees-671m-settlement-for-bribery-allegations/

Rolls-Royce has reached a deal to pay £671m to global regulators to settle allegations of bribery and corruption, including the largest UK fine ever imposed on a company for criminal conduct.

Later today, that UK share of the settlement, which amounts to £497m, plus interest and costs, will go before a judge for approval at a court hearing – when further details of the allegations may emerge. These include previously reported claims that the company once gave Tommy Suharto, son of Indonesia’s former president, a blue Rolls-Royce car and $20m to encourage Garuda, the country’s airline, to buy its Trent 700 engine.

Can you imagine if Hunter was born to a powerful person in a country like Indonesia? He wouldn’t have to settle for $80,000/month directorships. He could really be “in the big time” and we’d be finding crack pipes in Rolls Royce’s, not Hertz rental cars.

It’s no surprise that Hunter was also apparently active in China. The Chinese know a thing or two about nepotism.

And because I’m not a partisan hack, I’ll point out the son of Trump’s ambassador to China.

These people all play the same game. The policy and party stuff is all window dressing to keep the citizenry distracted. While voters think Trump and Biden are fighting over the future of America, the political elites are really fighting for who’s going to cash in the most.

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And this is basically all you need to know about mups.

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"the emails have not been verified as authentic. They were said to have been extracted from a computer assumed — but not proven — to have belonged to the younger Biden. They were said to have been given to the Post by Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is known for making discredited claims about the Bidens

The context also screams for caution: U.S. officials say Russian disinformation campaigns have sought to keep Hunter Biden’s business dealings in Ukraine in the public eye. According to The Washington Post, intelligence officials warned the White House last year that Russian operatives had sought to give misinformation to Giuliani to be used against the Bidens. And NBC is now reporting that the FBI is investigating whether the material in the New York Post story originated in a foreign power’s disinformation campaign"

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924506867/analysis-questionable-n-y-post-scoop-driven-by-ex-hannity-producer-giuliani?utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR05OKpZsdU24CdZhnQLWMjiHn4XJ0qwXb0-coAgV_vIuLjdWGuab30WglA

The confirmation was related to a Chinese deal.

Doesn’t mean everything else is verified or even with 100% certainty the Chinese deal is, but which of these 2 scenarios sound more likely.

Joe Bidens crack head son dropped off a computer which had emails, videos and audio dating back 10 years at least.

Or what exactly? Bearing in mind the computer shop owner originally contacted the FBI and only when he heard nothing back after 6 months did he reach out to various political entities, turns out as far as I know Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer was the only one to get back to him.

Yes, I am aware the entire MSM is in full cover for Biden mode. Earlier on when Rudy was traipsing around Ukraine it wouldn’t surprise me to learn of Russian efforts to sow disinformation.

If the FBI had this laptop since last year and did nothing, they are either the most useless inept knuckle heads because this would be explosive news, if it were Russian disinformation, they should have had their best guys dissecting and analyzing it’s contents.

Instead we hear nothing out of the FBI, because in all likely hood, they just sat on it and buried it.

Oh, but now it’s a big deal for them.

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This never happened, and thus, you are talking bollocks,