Edit: Democrats are trying to distance themselves from the disaster. Is it too late?
online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 … 3800602836
It’s better, but not nearly better enough.
My guess is those who were slow to admit trainwreck.gov was broken will be eager to declare victory. That’s the way these things go. Denial dies hard.
So this is basically a huge Dan Bricklin demo? There’s a metaphor for this entire presidency. A great big mock up wrapped in hype.
newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp … ed-version
No joy at CNN.
This thing is like liberalism’s retarded child. No matter how much you lower expectations it just keeps on disappointing.
Now they admit… the private sector does it better.
washingtontimes.com/news/201 … -websites/
Hey, whatever happnened to all those people on here saying everything would be just fine in the end?
Are we finished yet? So soon?
[quote=“rowland”]Now they admit… the private sector does it better.
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Hey, whatever happnened to all those people on here saying everything would be just fine in the end?[/quote]
I am still here and I still say that. You are still hysterical, and still no surprise there.
The private sector does SOME websites better. The Apple Store, for example, is a constant headache and just try and update your account when you move to another country. Or how about the brilliant launch of Apple maps? Oh yeah, no glitches there.
Amazon is great. No doubt about it. They are actually an exception, not the rule.
You really should give this up or you are going to have to go full Benghazi on me in another couple months. And that won’t be good for your soul. 
[quote=“Mucha Man”]
You really should give this up or you are going to have to go full Benghazi on me in another couple months. And that won’t be good for your soul. [/quote]
I’ll let it go when they either fix it or repeal it. It won’t ever be fixed, so it’ll have to be repeal. Until then it’s no laughing matter.
Anybody who thinks Benghazi is funny has got to have a coprolite for a heart. Good people died there because bad people screwed up. Have you ever lost loved ones to government incompetence? You wouldn’t be so flip about it if you had.
[quote=“rowland”][quote=“Muzha Man”]
You really should give this up or you are going to have to go full Benghazi on me in another couple months. And that won’t be good for your soul. 
[/quote]
I’ll let it go when they either fix it or repeal it. It won’t ever be fixed, so it’ll have to be repeal. Until then it’s no laughing matter.[/quote]
Watching you and yoru kind LOOK for problems is funny.
Oh dear, you are so serious now, I better change into a vest. 
Benghazi, as the right wing has attempted to use it to discredit Obama, is sadly funny. Anyone who doesn’t see that and tries to argue that we need to focus on acting reverent toward the death and suffering is simply being disingenuous. You know exactly what I mean and it would probably take me about 5 minutes to find you being flip about someone’s suffering. So give that a rest too.
Here’s the reality. If Obamacare is repealed that’s it. There won’t be health care reform for another decade or more. And that means a lot of people getting sick and dying. Far far far far far far more than died in Benghazi.
You have no moral high ground here.
[quote=“Mucha Man”]
Benghazi, as the right wing has attempted to use it to discredit Obama, is sadly funny. Anyone who doesn’t see that and tries to argue that we need to focus on acting reverent toward the death and suffering is simply being disingenuous. You know exactly what I mean and it would probably take me about 5 minutes to find you being flip about someone’s suffering. So give that a rest too.[/quote]
I’ll call your bluff, but it only counts if I was being flip about someone who didn’t bring his own trouble on himself.
[quote=“rowland”][quote=“Muzha Man”]
Benghazi, as the right wing has attempted to use it to discredit Obama, is sadly funny. Anyone who doesn’t see that and tries to argue that we need to focus on acting reverent toward the death and suffering is simply being disingenuous. You know exactly what I mean and it would probably take me about 5 minutes to find you being flip about someone’s suffering. So give that a rest too.[/quote]
I’ll call your bluff, but it only counts if I was being flip about someone who didn’t bring his own trouble on himself.[/quote]
I’ve already listed your insensitivity to the suffering repeal of the ACA will surely bring. Beyond that…hah, get over yourself. I waste lots of time on Fcom but not that kind of time.
[quote=“Mucha Man”]
I’ve already listed your insensitivity to the suffering repeal of the ACA will surely bring. [/quote]
Real world, please.
washingtonexaminer.com/1-in-4-ob … le/2540329
As I predicted, fixing the immediate problems has only exposed more problems.
[quote]After refusing for weeks to detail the extent of back-end problems with healthcare.gov, the Obama administration on Friday said a technical bug affected approximately 25 percent of enrollments on the federal exchanges in October and November.
Those technical bugs, separate from the troubles consumers had experienced accessing information on the website during the first two months, are posing a significant new problem for those who signed up and are expecting insurance coverage come Jan. 1.
One in four of those applications either did not get transferred to insurers, were transferred in duplicate form, or had major errors in information shared.[/quote]
newrepublic.com/article/1158 … al-fixable
And now that that is being fixed Fox will give you something else to freak out about- and then something else and something else till 20 years from now you’re jumping up and down waving a sign saying “Keep the government’s hands off my Affordable Care…”
I can’t wait for Republicans in the next federal election to campaign on the platform of repealing Obama Care. Once enough Americans can access it and try it, it’ll be political suicide to try to rip it away from all the people it helps. Voter apathy is one of the reasons elections are so close. Nobody really goes out of their way to make it to the polls because they’re mostly so indifferent about both parties. You want to see how fast 30 million people who have never had insurance get to the polls if you try to take it away from them? 
Strange. I thought that the wonders of Obamacare were supposed to win the 2012 elections. I don’t remember hearing much about it during these on the Democrat side… I certainly heard a lot about it on the Republican side… Now, given that there is a whole year to get this thing up and running, I can see where the past three years have been “misused” and where BrentGolf can get the confidence to believe (hope and change baby!) that this site will be up and running and working so successfully that it will be touted as a game changer for 30 million people. Yes, in fact, I am quite sure that is exactly what will happen. Funny how one who waxes so optimistic can be so pessimistic about the effects of climate change. My skepticism remains the same. Where’s a polar bear or a seal when you have a club? I suppose I will have to settle for a chihuahua.
That would be the side that lost. yes? Lost the presidency, lost the Senate,and got fewer votes than the Democrats for the House?
I feel much better now. When I originally read Fred’s post I thought, huh? Am I reading that wrong? Does Fred know that Obama won in 2012? Now I feel better that somebody else pointed out the obvious so I wouldn’t have to. :discodance:
Um… we are talking about “is it fixed, yet?” The “it” is Obamacare. How many times did Obama cite success with Obamacare during the 2012 presidential campaign? THAT is the point, at least of this particular discussion. It seems to be that I can reliably formulate my opinions on any subject by knowing whether BrentGolf supports them. And the fact that Big John usually sides with him. Well, that is almost peer-reviewed in terms of its efficacy, no?
baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/12/2 … -deadline/
Nope. Not yet. But they’ve graciously given us an extra day. Happy Festivus!
That doesn’t point to the health insurance program being wrong, it just points to how greedy the health provider industry is. Treat them and worry about the cost later…