The Overdue Critical Race Theory/DEI Thread

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I finally got the chance to watch the “debate” between Joy Reid and Chris Rufo, and wow, she literally wouldn’t let him compete a sentence. I guess it’s a sign of how effective he is that they won’t even let him talk.

Straight from the horses mouth:

Rufo straight-up admits that it was corporate and educational anti-racist trainings that motivated his crusade, not critical race theory itself; that the primary reason he selected it as a target was its ominous sounding name; and that he neither knows nor cares about the actual substance of CRT. “Strung together, the phrase ‘critical race theory’ connotes hostile, academic, divisive, race-obsessed, poisonous, elitist, anti-American,” he told Wallace-Wells. At a recent conference, he contemptuously scoffed at “pathetic … angry graduate students” who try to argue with him about CRT or other topics. "I don’t give a st** about this stuff," he said. On Twitter, Rufo frankly admitted that he wants to make CRT into a vacuous smear and fill up its meaning with everything he doesn’t like:

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Ian Prior just pops up everywhere doesn’t he? He’s made quite the career for himself creating groups of feral activists to harass parents, teachers, school boards.

Multiple reports of racists incidents in the school with kids being called the N word and those of South Asian descent called ISIS. Even the local NAACP (that liberal rag) found Loudon County schools to be a hostile environment after an audit and filed a complaint with the attorney general.

Loudoun County was once a Republican stronghold, but it has shifted to favor Democrats in recent elections — Trump lost the county by 24 percentage points last year — in part due to changing demographics.

You’re dealing with a situation at a local level where a school district and school curriculum is being politicized,” said Ian Prior, a white Loudoun County parent and former spokesman for Trump’s Justice Department who is leading the school board recall effort. “And there are several people — not just me — who absolutely know how to make sure that those things are at least exposed.”

In 2019, the Loudoun County school district hired a consultant group, the Equity Collaborative, to conduct an audit of the racial climate in schools. Students of color told the Equity Collaborative in focus groups that white students, teachers and parents had used racial slurs and told them to go back to their country.

Other members of the anti-racist group who were named in articles also received messages calling them racial slurs, and telling them, “Go home, you have no place in the USA,” according to screenshots reviewed by NBC News. Morford, who had flagged Prior and a former congressional candidate as critics of equity initiatives in the anti-racist group, was labeled a “harasser” on a website that listed her email and employer, prompting her to install security cameras.

Smear after smear.

“Highly technical Hegel interpretations” is the exact quote (it was included in the video @Dr_Milker just posted), not CRT and other topics; your misquoting to prove a point is the kind of behaviour that disproves your post.

If you want to go straight from the horses mouth, do that.

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I don’t see the relevance of this post to anything we’re discussing on this thread.

Lies and distractions won’t change anyone’s mind, it only demonstrates the playbook.

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Yep. Rufo has been totally straightforward and consistent on this, that’s just silly. Total unwillingness to engage on the issues, looks like full blown desperation mode in wokeworld on this at the moment.

I want to understand white rage, and I’m white, and I want to understand it.”

“What is it that that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America,”

“I’ve read Mao Zedong, I’ve read Karl Marx, I’ve read Lenin, that doesn’t make me a communist. So what is wrong with understanding — having some situational understanding about the country that we are here to defend?

Preach! :pray:

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I disagree, I think most of the people claiming there is no problem and it is only manufactured by conservatives really believe this.

Posturing by idiots like Matt Gaetz feeds into this narrative, which is a shame because there is a real problem in education. But just because Matt Gaetz is an idiot, that doesn’t mean everyone else who opposes current-year-fashionable-anti-white-racism is.


Look, I did a google scholar search for critical race theory. the second hit was an introductory text by a main scholar, and i hit the cited by list (great function on google scholar, like a reverse reference list)

The top 5 hits are all in education, citing the CRT intro text. Yes, they are not CRT publications (oh wait, the last one there is), but they are using it in the academic work on education (I own one of Merriam’s case study texts, her and Yin are the main authors here and I have one from each). The teachers in schools, and the people who write curriculum are reading this stuff when they are trained, and the professors who are publishing this are obviously using it. To say that ‘CRT isn’t being taught to children so what is all the complaining about, CRT is something else’ is an admission of ignorance (or less often, an outright lie).

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Yeah, we’re seeing this again and again now, so I’m finding that pretty hard to believe. When one ignores the facts to suit a predetermined end I’m not inclined to be charitable in my estimation of motivations. Particularly when mine are being outrageously maligned :slight_smile: We’ll see how the mainstream approaches this, but all signs now are pointing to my path being clear anyway :man_shrugging:

Yep.

Indeed, that seems to be the chosen tack. OK

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But the flobbers we’re arguing against now aren’t the ones we were arguing with in February, and these new guys haven’t read the thread, so I give the benefit of the doubt.

At least it isn’t in a required PhD course, I was dumbfounded when I returned to Canada for school and all this clearly connected woke shit was thrown around by everyone and not up for discussion.

Britain and France are making a stand, but it is too late for North America (look at Coca Cola hiring Robin Diangelo, for example). I’m glad I came back to Asia.

It talks about racial equity, crt, and anti-crt “discussions” in schools - how’s that not relevant to anything being discussed on this thread?

Oh sure. I was talking about the woke media in particular, and we’ll have to see if the mainstream follows this kind of line or not. Parroting this kind of thing sends a clear message to me though. Whatever.

We’ll see :slight_smile:

Hiring? That training ruckus lately? They backed down from that somewhat and DiAngelo told them to stop using her stuff because of a copyright issue :slight_smile:

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Please show me where in here you see CRT. I thought the complaint of the day was CRT isn’t relevant to the conversations in schools. You can’t have it both ways.

Oh, I thought they paid her for the training (she does the paid work). My mistake.

Still, they must have paid someone, and the person they paid chose to use her stuff.

your words, whatever you’re typing now i likely won’t bother to answer

you don’t like conservatives, you don’t see a problem in your area. i get it.

I think they used an open source resource of some kind. Not sure of all details though.

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strangely, i read the article.
eliminate any diversity training that incorporated “critical race theory.”…This sentiment popped up in Loudoun County as well, where some parents objected to the district’s equity efforts and sought to block critical race theory from the classroom…our equity work was being misinterpreted as critical race theory… He has spent months arguing that the district used critical race theory…demanding the district stop teaching critical race theory… but issued statements disputing that it taught critical race theory…students are not focused on the national scrutiny and the debate over critical race theory.

I believe you’re thinking incorrectly, but I’d love to see what I said that gave you that impression.

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I’m a gun toting, low tax wanting, military industrial contractor. In Georgia. You really think I don’t like conservatives? ;D

I see a big problem in my area.

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