The Overdue Critical Race Theory Thread

Look up Cultural Marxism and see why that is a gross misuse of the term. While I may agree with some of her sentiments, I don’t think the way she presents the argument is helpful when discussing American politics which is uniquely center-Right and fervently pro-capitalist on both sides of the spectrum.

And yes clearly you are not interested in the counter argument with CRT, but I will continue to post the evidence of astro-turfing, using fraudulent evidence to justify legislation, and the pressures that teachers now face in how to navigate these inherently litigious new laws. I think it’s fair for all to post both sides of the argument.

She was using the past tense and as per the journal article I shared with you she was completely correct.

I’d like to see your pro-CRT argument. You haven’t actually given one.

You mean an abstract of a paper behind a pay wall. My guess is you haven’t read it either. There’s plenty of articles on Cultural Marxism as a far right conspiracy. That doesn’t make sense in the context of what Pluckrose wrote.

If you think pro-CRT vs. anti-CRT is the argument, then I’m not going to bother.

I was right to put you on mute. I’ll keep that on.

The abstract proved the point. Anyways, don’t you have access to a university library? That would be more helpful for this conversation than wikipedia…

This is the CRT thread, not the I hate conservatives thread. If you don’t want to discuss CRT, what are you doing here?

If you can’t handle it, I totally understand.

Not anymore than somebody describing themselves as a stable genius means they’re a stable genius. ;D

She’s talking about specifically it in the context of philosophical movements around the late 1960’s: “In response, Marxists and many socialists more broadly, who are instantly recognizable as a significant part of “the left,” immediately objected to the New Left’s Neo-Marxism (or Cultural Marxism, as they sometimes called their own framework)”.

Did you say an abstract backed that up, @TT? I seem to have missed it in a flood of posts not about the article in any apparent way.

yup, note her usage of the past tense and hedging with ‘sometimes’
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/rec3.12258


if @Malasang88 thinks she doesn’t make sense he should try reading some deleuze

That would suggest she’s correct, but I feel safe in assuming she knows :slight_smile: That looks like an interesting article; that is an interesting question. I wonder if JP gets a mention :slight_smile:

i just downloaded it for you, how can i send you the pdf? (i’m not going to read it, though)

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Not about CRT per se, but maybe a hint at an antidote…

A good synopsis of the “grass roots” movement supported by conservative lawyers, think tanks and right wing media flooding school boards and threatening school board members if they do not comply.

“I was very naïve at the beginning of the year,” Porter said. “I thought it was a concerned parent who had taken it a little too far. I didn’t understand this until recently, but these were tactics from national organizations to discredit the entire district.”

Reinforced by conservative think tanks, law firms and activist parents, these groups have found allies in families frustrated over Covid-19 restrictions in schools and have weaponized the right’s opposition to critical race theory, turning it into a political rallying point.

Fishbein’s endeavor received a significant boost in September, when she appeared on Tucker Carlson’s prime-time Fox News show. By the next day, No Left Turn’s Facebook page had shot up from fewer than 200 followers to over 30,000. The group now has 30 chapters in 23 states, a rapid expansion Fishbein credits to Carlson’s show.

“He launched our movements — he doesn’t know it, but he did,” Fishbein said.

She said her nonprofit group, which is volunteer-driven and relies on small donations to cover promotional materials and legal fees, now fields requests from groups of parents, ranging from 50 people to more than 1,000, asking to get involved under No Left Turn’s umbrella. These local chapters are the “boots on the ground,” she said, confronting school administrators at board meetings and through records requests.

The case garnered media attention on the right, and slowly, O’Brien said, more conservative advocacy groups became interested in these cases. He started SchoolhouseRights.org as a project of the International Organization for the Family, a conservative nonprofit group, to raise funds to take on more cases like Clark’s.

“Some people are treating it like a gold rush,” O’Brien said. “This is a new area where people think they can either become famous or make money on the issue, and they’re probably right.”

O’Brien later joined a coalition of attorneys focused on this cause, organized by Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank.

Throughout the winter, organizations like the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, and the American Legislative Exchange Council, which produces model bills on Republican causes, held webinars that warned about the threat of teaching critical race theory.

There’s no shortage of free publicity for the cause. The conservative focus on critical race theory is pervading right-wing news publications, like Fox News and Breitbart, which covered the issue in as many as 750 articles per week in May, according to Dominik Stecuła, a political science professor at Colorado State University.

The topic is also the focus of “consistent discussion” in local GOP Facebook groups, where 2 percent of all Facebook posts from local parties mentioned critical race theory in May, climbing to 3.6 percent so far in June, according to Kevin Reuning, an assistant professor of political science at Miami University, who tracks political Facebook posts. That’s about the same as the share of posts mentioning antifa in the groups following the U.S. Capitol riot, when conservative groups were falsely blaming the far-left collection of orchestrating the Jan. 6 attack.

(Probably the same share as Forumosa posts :rofl:)

As a result of this movement, school boards are now facing an influx of lawsuits and records requests that can cost money and time that are in short supply, as well as public meetings that have become a sounding board for a variety of far-right causes.

Undeterred, hundreds of conservative activists and local residents, many without children in the district, according to their public testimony, waited in the Reno sun until their names were called to speak out against critical race theory and the board’s recent adoption of a student-led anti-discrimination resolution.

During the most recent meeting, which lasted 11 hours, speakers railed at school board members, calling them Marxists, racists, Nazis and child abusers, among other epithets.

“I don’t always agree with the board by any stretch of the imagination,” De Haan, who is white, said. “But listening to the anger, and what truly feels like hatred, and Martin Luther King being taken out of context over and over again, it’s really hard. I definitely get glares when I go up and speak. It’s uncomfortable, but I feel it’s important to be out there.”

In South Kingstown, Rhode Island, the parent of an incoming kindergartener submitted over 200 public records requests in two months, seeking copies of middle and high school curricula, lists of all books related to gender available in the library and 10 years worth of harassment complaints and emails. The district said it would take 300 hours to compile all of the records requested.

Timothy Ryan, executive director of the Rhode Island School Superintendents’ Association, called the onslaught of records requests an effort “to shut the system down.”

“I believe their intent is really to have the public lose confidence in public education,” he said**. “There was the ‘war on Christmas,’ and now everybody is teaching critical race theory. I think you’d be hard pressed to find five people in the state who could even define that.”**

“This is just the tip of the iceberg on media coming your way and national support aligned with our cause to fight CRT,” he wrote. The next day, McBreairty appeared on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

A representative for Fox News declined to comment.

But McBreairty’s efforts have run into problems with authorities. Last week, McBreairty was charged by the local police department with “improper influence,” after he allegedly threatened to release a recording between himself and the deceased father of school board chair Tyler McGinley if McGinley didn’t resign.

Porter said he was “surprised by how much hate can be generated by a small group of people in the community” who he says have equated equity initiatives with critical race theory.

“For people who are not in agreement, they’re using the word ‘equity’ and saying, ‘There you are, you’re teaching CRT!’ And then equity becomes a horrible thing that we’re doing,” Porter said.

I feel like the district in some ways has gotten used — almost held hostage — by this national ideology or national movement, that says we’re all teaching CRT, and we’re all trying to indoctrinate kids.”

Porter said the battle is far from over. It “is kind of a black cloud hanging over the district,” he said.

Ok. You’ve spent a lot of your energy highlighting what the opposition to CRT is doing. Prove to people you’ve considered what the knock-on effects of implementing such programs in schools will have. I get the strong feeling you just want to champion this issue so you can say to your friends you’ve done so without giving two fcuks what it’ll do to school systems and education. I feel sorry for you, if you are a grown adult, that you have so blindly fallen for the divisive scam that CRT is.

You can see the narrative runs deep among those who consume right wing media. The knock-on effects of these programs? You mean every single diversity program? I believe one poster said their company had one for 15 years so does that mean CRT to you?

I feel sorry for people who are so insecure that any discussion about race makes them feel guilty or makes them feel like they are being accused of being racist. No, the burden of proof is on the ones pushing this legislation to silence teachers in the classroom. The failure has been in proving that anyone is being compelled to do anything. Schools have repeatedly said they are not teaching CRT. The scam is believing in the CRT conspiracy when you can’t even define it. I am championing the right for teachers to talk about race in the classroom without fear of reprisal.

Let’s take that same logic and say that any discussion on income inequality or workers rights we are now going to call communism. Now you say “Defend communism! Prove it works!” Do you not see that logic is flawed and the intent is to silence rather than have any dialogue?

You can see the narrative runs deep among those who consume right wing woke media.

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Much like this pernicious nonsense. This is what CRT proponents always fall back on when their practices are threatened.

More people on the ground fighting CRT, good to see this kind of effort

Pro-CRT school boards and administrators are willing to lie to parents to their faces, and they are even willing to lie on the record.

Becoming more and more difficult to doubt.

I’d rather people with guilty consciences stop projecting onto others their inner demons and stop talking about race altogether.

You don’t see a problem with teachers, who’ve been incentivized to conform and perform, being tasked by their superiors to toe the line?

The ulterior motive for this 3rd year sociology paper of a theory is to get more brown skinned people into the schools and, perhaps, to get some of that fat Chinese money coming into the school district through parents wanting to send their kids to a “safe, famous school”. You’re going to see segregated schools again and then you’ll have some other white elephant of a cause to get behind.

Although critical race theory is not part of K-12 education in the US, local squabbles and highly specific campus incidents have been at the heart of Fox’s coverage.

The critical race theory segments dovetail with the network’s other big focus in 2021, cancel culture.

Critical race theory mentions have grown at a near exponential pace in recent weeks, with Fox personalities mentioning it a record 244 times last week alone, more than the entire month of May and twice as many than for all of March, according to the study.

You didn’t believe there was data showing a deliberate attempt by conservative media to flood airwaves with this CRT nonsense. Turns out there’s plenty of it.

https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1404788382509772800?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1404788382509772800|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-33447419764135742976.ampproject.net%2F2106072053000%2Fframe.html

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Ignore history. That is what I thought. This is why people are against the conservative movement to silence teachers. Should we also not talk about the Holocaust?

I don’t see that incentive. Instead I see fear of teachers losing their jobs because a discussion about race makes a student feel guilty or an activist parent decides to sue. No good can come of that insecurity.

CRT is just the 2021 version of antifa/caravans obviously. Fox news has been mentioning it a ton lately.

Not sure it’s a winner though.

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Right, the attitude from some on the left had me making the same comparison, “this thing doesn’t exist”. Always interesting when you notice a theme.

The American Mind is published by the Claremont Institute a conservative think tank.

Charles R. Kesler, a government professor at Claremont McKenna College, is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute (CI), which states its mission as restoring “the principles of the American Founding to their rightful, preeminent authority in our national life.” CI has collaborated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center to host the Dutch Islamophobe Geert Wilders. John C. Eastman – who wrote the birther essay about Kamala Harris’s eligibility to serve as vice president – is a senior fellow at CI, which receives funding from DonorsTrust, Donors Capital Fund, Bradley Foundation, the Aequus Institute and many other luminaries within the libertarian donor network.

Grass roots?