And did Jesus cure all the other children who have suffered tethered cord syndrome, too?
I donât doubt he does good.
How about Dr Nathan Goonisinghe, who treats eye disease among children in Sri Lanka, and who is a Buddhist? The Red Cross are Christian (in the name), the White Helmets in Syria are Muslim, Medicins Sans Frontieres are mostly agnostic/atheist. You donât have to be any particular religion to do good.
God works in mysterious ways.
And remember there is also the Devil and sadly the Devil has power too.
Word salad.
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Iâm not a big fan of Dawkins when he strays out of biology; OTOH Peterson is a practitioner of bafflegab who will twist and turn and do everything he can to avoid answering the question, possibly because when he does answer the question he makes an absolute fool of himself (yes, I saw the whole thing, on Alex OâConnors feed).
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That is exactly how I feel as well. It is interesting to watch Peterson get so flustered and red whilst Dawkins stayed calm. I am more aligned with a Dawkins logic, but really find him offensive. So this one was a nice change of pace, probably age taming the edge.
While answering an agnosticâs question, this guy mentioned how Peterson led someone to Jesus
Frank Turek! Havenât seen him for a while. I think he was big in the âminimal factsâ resurrection approach, if Iâm remembering right.
It doesnât really say âhowâ Peterson convinced him, Iâd like to know!
None of this is convincing in an evidence based approach, as most atheists subscribe to. Those people wouldnât say, âGod you havenât shown yourself so you must not existâ. They simply havenât seen sufficient evidence to believe. You can hardly help but believe in the existence of what is apparent, even if you choose not to follow or worship it.
I think itâs more of an argument against. The atheist/agnostic says âYou say God is all-powerful and also wants to show Himself to me, so why doesnât He?â
Then you get arguments against, like Frankâs, which donât make any particular sense.
Itâs an argument! He may not want to show himself though, but be believed in without that. Thatâs a pretty standard line of argument as well
Yeah, thatâs certainly a valid reply from theists.
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Otherwise you couldnât have faith.
You know how many people have died for lies (or simply, incorrect information) they believed? Happens all the time.
The purported deaths of Mark and Luke were late Roman and early medieval legends, not recorded anywhere in earlier Christian sources.
Paul was probably executed by the Romans. By the sword instead of crucifixion, held to be a more merciful death granted to Roman citizens like Paul. Tacitus says the Christian leaders were executed by Nero as scapegoats for the burning of parts of Rome, widely suspected to be an action by Nero himself in order to seize some valuable property.
This is what Paul was executed for- him renouncing belief in a Jewish magician executed thirty years before was hardly likely to impress a Roman executioner charged with killing him for the crimes of arson and murder- innocent or not.