Forgive me, but isn’t the purpose of the Feedback forum to “Let us know how you feel about the website and tell us how it could improve. We’ll do the same.”? I fail to see how this is the best forum for a discussion on the ethics of p2p and torrenting.
If you’d ever been on the receiving end of a mod’s seemingly arbitrary - and often unexplained - decision to temp one of your posts, perhaps you’d understand.[/quote]
I don’t expect a moderator to explain why they chose to temp something. If it’s temp worthy to begin with, the post’s author can be expected to know exactly why it was removed. This is plain common sense
But is aritrary temping really a problem? I’m talking about writing something you thought was relevant to the discussion and it was inexplicably removed. I’m not denying that you might think this happens now and then - different people, different perspectives, yadda yadda - but you seem to be saying this happens enough to be a problem.
So what do you do? Do you hit the squeal button (to alert the admins) and provide a link and one or 2 lines of context so that we can ask the moderators in question? The issue is if you do this SO OFTEN that it is a problem.
[quote]I don’t expect a moderator to explain why they chose to temp something. If it’s temp worthy to begin with, the post’s author can be expected to know exactly why it was removed. This is plain common sense
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I disagree. I think the onus should be on the moderator to clearly explain why a post is temped. You only need to look back through the Temp and Feedback forums to find numerous instances of posters confused (and usually angry) about why their posts have been temped.
No. I detest the very concept of “squealing”. A forum is, by definition, open.
[quote=“Infidel”]I think the onus should be on the moderator to clearly explain why a post is temped. You only need to look back through the Temp and Feedback forums to find numerous instances of posters confused (and usually angry) about why their posts have been temped.
[/quote]I agree with that, but to an extent. I don’t think mods should have to always explain themselves, but I agree that it’s nice when they do.
It sounds like you got temped in times when you felt it was wrong. Sorry to hear that you felt you were treated unfairly. I don’t have a problem with explaining to you why I temped your post if you want to know. Besides, I don’t think you get temped very often, Infidel. You worry too much!
[quote=“Infidel”]I disagree. I think the onus should be on the moderator to clearly explain why a post is temped…
I detest the very concept of “squealing”. A forum is, by definition, open.[/quote] You don’t use many technology-related forums, do you? The word has changed its meaning a little since the days of the ancient Romans.
Infidel, first, have you read line one of the preface to the rules?
Preface
While we attempt to resolve all problems in an amicable way, we nonetheless reserve the right to … delete, edit, rename or flounder any post for any reason, and such reason may or may not be indicated to the general community.
I joined this private board with a full understanding that I’m subject to those rules; I assume you have the same understanding.
Second, mods temp any posts they don’t consider of permanent value to the forum, or which are OTT silly, off-topic, in the wrong forum, in violation of the rules, and so on. Lots of reasons, and there are so many silly or otherwise OT posts that it would be a burden for mods to have to explain each one, IMO. Should I really have to explain my decision to temp this one? That would be a major waste of my time. Also, have a look at the Glazedthread in Temp which I took out of the organ harvesting thread. The posters presumably knew the reason that line of posts didn’t deserve a permanent place in a thread discussing organ harvesting, to the point where one poster remarked “Good grief! How did we get from harvesting organs in a people farm to this?” I temped it, and didn’t feel any compunction to explain why.
Anyway, the posts are still there for two weeks, so we can all read and respond to them, so why is this a problem? Why make a big issue out of it? :loco: In my nearly 6000 posts on this board, I’ve always known why my posts got temped, without having to be told why, and have never had a complaint about it. It’s just a message board anyway. What value do a few of my (or your) scribbles on it really have? I think it usually takes an inflated sense of self-worth or at the very least a lack of perspective to get upset about having a post temped. A healthier sense of perspective and thicker skin are required.
You’re right. Why bother?[/quote]No, no. You can say what you think, of course. You see, I’m quite fond of my own thoughts. Me and myself get along quite well. That’s why I don’t blame you.
Why bother? Because it’s just a post or two. Whatever you think, I say post away. I guarantee you not everyone will always appreciate what you write, but I also guarantee you that others will. What gets me is when people post insincere crap. Clearly not the case with you, as far as my interpretation goes.
Don’t worry about being temped sometimes. In a way, it’s all lost words anyways. Same goes with what I’m writing to you now. Soon it will sink to the bottom of the page and no one will ever pay notice again.
It doesn’t mean that mods shouldn’t take the appropriate time and use appropriate judgement as much as humanely possible when temping posts. But really… at the end of the day, either in temp or here in feedback, the point is simple, and that is nice talking to you, Sir.
You don’t use many technology-related forums, do you? The word has changed its meaning a little since the days of the ancient Romans.
That’s why I don’t blame you.