Uber? Should Taiwan allow Uber to operate?

I don’t think this is a secret ‘problemo’, a lot of people have seen the light on Uber.

NO problemo

I’m not saying you’re wrong or disagreeing with you. But how’s Uber not like buying a pair of 200$ Nike’s

Just so y’all know…

Some of my most epic rants are there. Proceed with caution! :smile:

Erm ?
Not comparable. Uber is an abysmal, abysmal company.

I’m currently living in London and I can’t imagine going back to the pre-Uber days of having to walk for ages to wait an hour for the (very long) night bus back home after a night out. I’m a pretty left-wing guy, so I sympathise with the “socialist” argument against Uber mentioned above. Perhaps when I go back to Taiwan, I’ll make a point of only using Uber instead of taking a taxi if it’s for a long journey, but I don’t think I can stop using Uber entirely.

Just to clarify in case some didn’t know, uber in Taiwan is just a glorified taxi app now.
They don’t allow people to use their personal car to drive like they used to as the govt pressured by the cartel cracked down , mostly against drivers giving them huge fines and threatening license suspension. They still can’t get drunks off the road but in the case of uber drivers they spared no expense

Now uber calls private limo companies which made it a non starter for me as the price doubled. I suck up the wait times and take the bus or scooter

That’s what I thought, but I used a personal one the other day and he had the sign saying his score must stay above 4.6 or he has to quit.

They went back to personal drivers again? Will.check into that. Maybe it means if he gets lower than 4.6 he can’t drive using the uber platform but still is a limo driver

Woah! When did the fines imposed on drivers exceed the $1,000,000,000+ that they imposed on the company?

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Not ‘socialist’…How do you mean ?

Uber is a pyramid scheme and a cancer on society. They are not cheap, but rather artificially cheap while they drive out the opposition.

Hoping they are gone from London soon. Hurrah for TFL for actually having some corjones

Uber comes to my doorstep and drops me off at my desired location and I get an electronic receipt and pay less. It’s pretty darn good.

You don’t pay less now that that they have to follow the regulations and pay taxes.
I don’t feel like paying ubers labour contributions and income taxes.

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I last used it when I went back home, was really cheap.

Had to take my 16yo brother to school at 7am, NOPE uber time and I get to sleep til 9am. Was great.

Uber isn’t cheap, it’s artificially cheap. Uber stays cheap by:

  1. Not paying taxes, registering as a taxi firm, considering workers employees, paying insurance… In fact any loophole or illegality it can use it’s money or legal team to take advantage of.

  2. Keeping prices artificially low to destroy the competition. The plan is to jack up the prices when the other options are gone. Uber lost 5 billion USD last year. It’s not a sustainable business. It cannot succeed.

Ride sharing is fine, but companies need to play by the rules otherwise we will be welcoming a new era of the darkest laissez faire capitalism in which corporations are allowed to ride roughshod over the employment laws that were hard fought for over the last hundred years. Uber views itself as above the laws of the nation state, a worrying trend from both Wall Street and silicon valley.

As consumers we should vote with our pockets over what future we want for our societies.

That is a huge loss O.o

I like certain aspects of it a lot and it’s always been enjoyable when using it.

I like the app, the service, the clean cars and the fact don’t have to pay with cash.

Everything else stinks

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I was home in January btw

That’s what they said about Amazon, lost money many years, always got stocked up from share holders, drove out the competition and can now do what ever it wants.

Yep I have some interesting books from the days of the robber barons about this. The robber barons made their money by eliminating competition in huge captured markerts such as power, finance , transport etc.

Slightly different though, Uber is a taxi firm. If it is forced to run as a profit making business, it has no competitive advantage outside of its app. In fact it has way higher outgoings than any taxi firm in the world (PR teams, marketing teams, legal teams, developers, expensive offices etc) , so it’s operations costs are huge. Once the subsidies go, they have to compete on price and a traditional taxi firm will always be cheaper.

Their business model makes no sense. Impossible to succeed