The point of the Ukraine military going mujahideen would be to learn from history and do to the Russians what the mujahideen did to them in Afghanistan.
Last Russian troops leaving Afghanistan 1989.
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Donât know about that. Ukrainians arenât prone to suicide bombing, virgins in heaven, yada yada. Western Ukies will never force the eastern Ukies to assimilate, because the latter just donât want to. Anyway, more dead for MIC profits.
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Interesting article from The Ran Paul Institute. I remember when Ron Paul was running for President and the media collectively sent him to Coventry.
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Elliot often interests me. Iâm a Guardianista. However, why is this article of his interesting? What makes it particularly interesting to you? Otherwise what is there to discuss?
I think one thing thats mentioned in the article but not really discussed here is just howâs much the UK is fully onboard with pushing Putin out of Ukraine completely, thatâs the message I get from multiple sources like the Home Secretary.
Even more than the US, even Biden is hinting at diplomatic solutions, while Boris it seems is scuttling attempts at diplomacy.
Pushing Putin out of Ukraine completely sounds good, but is it fantasy or grounded in reality. What would it take to do that?
Pushing Putin out of Ukraine completely sounds good, but is it fantasy or grounded in reality. What would it take to do that?
the same way Americans and Russians were pushed out of Afghanistan. Most likely will be the same way America was pushed out of Vietnam.
Much as I appreciate the analogy, comparing somewhere like Crimea to Vietnam is a bit of a mis match since the invaders in Vietnam were easy to spot and didnât even speak the same language, youâre going to have a hard time shoring up that insurgent mentality in places like Crimea.
Presuming the Russian invaders continued to wear uniforms they would be as easy to spot as they are now. Itâs the Ukrainian fighters who would become difficult to spot because they would take off their uniforms in an insurgent war and blend in. They would also have a tremendous advantage over insurgents in Viet Nam and Afghanistan in that theyâd be supplied with the latest weaponry by the West.
If the Russians left the two regions it accepts as breakaway states, then what?
It returns to 2014 scenario and shelling from Ukraine on civilians and the militias defending the regions? Would the Asov saints roll in to police the areas (they failed to take then) like ISIS did in the middle east?
The same people that want to ethnically cleanse the area of those that donât want to be governed by them.
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I hope the reports of the massive trap laid out for the Russians in Severodonetsk are half trueâŚthatâs nuts.
Here is some footage for those that support a NATO war until the last Ukrainian. Pretty sure they will like this.
Apparent footage of civilian areas in Donesk being bombed by Ukrainian forces. When Russians or Militias do it, there is frothing at the mouth:
A first hand account from the Russia propaganda machine
âI donât regret it,â he said. âRegret is a strong word. What made me sad is that people are so gullible.â
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Talking about what will happen if Ukraine pushes Russia out us redundant, because less WW3 starting with NATO going in, itâs not going to happen.
The whole purpose of the âUkraine will take Moscowâ narrative was to âbleedâ Russia, and the reasons for this is because Russia gets in the way of the âspecial military operationsâ NATO countries do. Thatâs all this ongoing war is about.
Ukraine was ready to make a deal and was held back, now they arenât even included in the negotiations.
People seriously need to wake up to the truth, not that the average person can do anything about it.
Who exactly is claiming âUkraine will take Moscowâ?
Guy
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Presumably the same people who said that Ukraine denied they had any troop casualties.
Wake up, sheeple!
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Interesting aspect for me in this case: not paid for or influenced by Russia at all, not even politically aligned. Run purely for getting advertisement money by making up stories that certain people want to hear.
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Apparently fairly recent footage of fighting in Severodonetsk:
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1533671268108623872
According to this Guardian article, some of what youâve been discussing appears to be happening now:
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Makes you wonder whoâs promoting all this instability. The one and done oil only economy on the verge of population collapse, or the strongest economy in the history of the world.
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Russia testing new weapons:
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