US hospital bill seems a little high?

How’s the dual-core thing working out? I may consider an upgrade myself.

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You visited the ER. An ER visit is considered “outpatient” until you are admitted to the hospital under a doctor’s order. Even if you’re in the ER overnight for observation, etc., that would typically still be considered outpatient unless you are admitted.

The fact that this was billed as inpatient services means that you were formally admitted to the hospital by the doctor. You must have been informed of this? Inpatient care, for obvious reasons, is expensive.

Just don’t install Taiwan OS on it!

It’s common knowledge that anytime you are in the ER in the US your bill is rarely ever under 10,000 dollars.

Because of the ridiculous number of middlemen in US healthcare, they inflate the costs as much as they can to milk insurance companies, governments, etc…

Stuff like saline drip costs 1000 USD each, a hospital room is 2000 a night, but the worst part is YOU DO NOT KNOW THE COST UNTIL THEY SEND YOU A BILL 6 MONTHS LATER!!!

They have guys whose job is to inflate every treatment as much as they can. Your insurance company will pay for most of it of course, but you will find you’d end up paying the same cost as getting treatment in Taiwan without NHI as your copay. Lots of people just declare bankruptcy because no one except Elon Musk can pay those costs. In fact 70% of all bankruptcies in the US is due to medical expense.

This is why the US also spends as much as 1/3rd (basically same as their military expense) of the Federal budget on medicare. But Americans get life expectancy and infant mortality figures that are the worst out of all first world countries despite the amount of money they spend on healthcare.

You should have known…

I was lucky I guess. I got treatment at the university’s health center which is heavily subsidized. So I only paid 10 dollars for a visit.

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Yeah I was admitted for monitoring, which is good because my health plan doesn’t cover outpatient at all

And yet it’s not called socialism.

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That’s very strange that your plan doesn’t cover outpatient.

In any case, you used a lot of services for a situation that doesn’t seem like it reasonably required it, and you even asked the hospital to feed you. The costs are what they are.

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You informed them about that fact?

Medical care in the US is basically crony socialism if you think about it…

Regulations to make sure the big players stay big players, while they continue stealing from the Federal coffers…

It doesn’t even cost anywhere near 1 million NTD for those services!

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A bill was put forward this year that would have ensured that people have a right to see charges before they accept, like happens in every country I’ve ever received medical care from throughout the world (outside the US). The insurance and pharmaceutical companies were lobbying hard against it and I believe it went nowhere. Plus, Trump was for it so that means it was probably an evil Nazi plan.

Your bill appears normal. My father was in the hospital for something relatively minor and I requested to see everything they gave him. Tylenol was $24. I said that I wasn’t approving such nonsense and could bring in my own. They said that wasn’t permitted…movie theaters try to run the same racket.

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They called my insurance before allowing me to be admitted to the ER. So they probably knew what was covered. I am not sure if they can refuse service if I’m uninsured since it’s a private for profit hospital.

The way it’s going they’re better off just socializing medical care and having the government run the whole thing, and not have this whole private corporations stealing money from the govt.

But that would never happen.

It was by choice because I’m cheap, it saves me half the cost. The insurance plan is still around $300 a month otherwise it’d be closer to $800.

Level 3 is moderately complex treatment in the ER. For stomach issues?

And what’s wrong with the new two???

For bad stomach pains

There’s some explanation of this here, and maybe potential avenues for the OP to pursue

https://www.copatient.com/blog/2019/05/15/whats-up-with-upcoding/

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Also I don’t know anything about the level 3 coding, but there was no blood everywhere or anything serious, just some blood tests

PS looked at the definition and level 3 seems correct, it’s non life threatening and not serious. I guess it’s debatable whether it’s level 1 or 2.

Level 3 – A problem where risks are low, and full recovery is expected, but there may be some small risk of problems developing if the patient doesn’t receive treatment.

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Tell them you don’t remember being there at all, see if they have any evidence. Maybe bobjim stole jimbobs id?

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The US gov’t would probably make it worse. It’s what they do.

In theory, I agree with you but, in practice, it’s a pyramid scheme that generates immense wealth at nearly every stage of the system and people aren’t going to let go of that. Of course, you get situations like this.