USA and gun control

Spin it any way you like, Obama enacted it, Trump reversed it, then the thing Trump reversed is now being claimed by Trump himself as a major reason for these atrocities.

So step 1 for anyone who puts this issue high on their list, should be to get Trump, McConnell, and the rest of these do-nothing, hypocrite scrubs out of office.

I believe you won’t answer truthfully but wonder if you really believe that kind of spin, are simply trolling or if you didn’t read the policy itself and instead are just ‘imagining’ what might be in it.

But he has also rolled back restrictions, reneged on pledges and resisted Democratic calls to toughen other gun control laws.

Within weeks of taking office, Trump scrapped a federal rule imposed by Obama that could have made it harder for some mentally ill people to own guns. Under the rule, the Social Security Administration was supposed to provide information to the gun-buying background check system on recipients with a mental disorder so severe they cannot work or handle their own benefit checks. The rule didn’t make certain people ineligible to buy a firearm, but was designed to ensure the background check system was comprehensive.

I linked to the actual bill. Did you read it? If not, do you know somebody who could read it to you?

However, if you want to play, name one shooting that would have been prevented if that Executive Action was in effect. One. Mass shooting, domestic violence, accidental discharge. I will even permit you going back before the Action was issued. Hindsight. Back as far as you want to go to some guy shooting another guy with a musket if you want.

Rude.

Man you got it 180 backwards there.

The day the gun lovers can recite the 14th amendment by heart with the same gusto I’ll believe they care about the constitution.

Rude and an impossible question to answer asked in bad faith mind you.

Name one instance in a counterfactual world that you cant reference that is different from what happened in this one.

What you cant? Gee I win.

Come on dude lol

In what manner would demonstrating that a proposal would be effective, even in hindsight, if a person proposes sweeping, controversial legislation.

Seat belts were made mandatory because they were demonstrated to have the capacity to save lives. Helmet laws. Laws against underage smoking. Vaccines. Standards for building codes.

When we have horrible events, regardless if accidents or intentional, we have a responsibility to sit down and think things through and come up with a solution that would have prevented such events from happening. Truck drivers need to take breaks. Teachers need to have background checks. People need to be screened before boarding a plane.

If you can’t come up with a single situation in which your proposal would have been effective in preventing even one incident any time in history, you don’t have an idea, you have an emotional reaction.

Come on, between the two of you, you surely can come up with a situation in which an elderly pensioner in the early stages of dementia went in and shot up a school, can’t you?

As we Homo sapiens continue to destroy with weaponry no wonder our planet holds an irreversible foreseeable future!

Madness :sweat_smile:
Why would you need a gun in a church or school ?
The pastor and teachers standing there with racks of guns at the ready beside em.
And at the same time more guns in the congregation is going to somehow make the place safer ?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-reject-push-to-alert-ice-when-illegal-immigrants-fail-firearm-background-checks

Guns are bad. Mkay?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJqoPSilr4

I can not work out if Babylon bee is just satirical or a religious site?

Is it satirical? @discobot fortune

:crystal_ball: You may rely on it

Gun control… and beyond!

Because the basic premise is beyond question by any decent, right thinking human being, so if it’s not working…

Meanwhile, in a slightly less delusional part of the world:

Yay! Now poor people can’t afford to buy ammo

with this move, Walmart will go the way of NASCAR

What was it, buy ten get one free?