USA and gun control

The US has dozens of fatal illnesses, it’ll be a race to see which one kills us first. The gun problem is a relatively minor one.

And you think those guns mostly come from those places, or places where it’s much easier to get a gun?

Where in the US do you think the law abiding can’t get guns?

Gun licensing isn’t the same as concealed carried. Missouri is the only state that I can recall that had a gun licensing requirement and repealed it, and It’s strongly correlated with a increase in gun deaths. Gun friendly states also generally have higher gun death rates.

I assume it’s because most large venues are gun free zones, for obvious reasons.

Sooo… how many mass shootings have they had in all? How’s that rate compare to the US?

Maybe the US should have conscription like Taiwan does. During your military training you would learn gun safety (or be smacked around until you can handle a gun safely).

Then your gun right comes with finishing your military training.

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News flash. Black people already legally own guns. And they have a driver’s license and internet access.


BUsy news day.

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Good to see some movement—finally.

But, from the story linked above, note this:

Notably, the new proposal does not address major Democratic priorities such as blocking access to assault-style weapons for people under 21 – a ban that President Joe Biden had backed in a recent primetime address to the nation but which was taken off the table among the Senate negotiators. This comes despite Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell privately expressing a willingness to support such a move, sources told ABC News.


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That should be a state law, I’d say. The age limit is a federal thing, as long as we can travel freely between states.

Definitely an accident.
On a positive note, burglars might think twice about breaking into those addresses.

The files included the home addresses, full names, and dates of birth for all of them. The same was true for seven custodial officers, 63 people with a place of employment permit, and 420 reserve officers.

2,891 people in Los Angeles County with standard licenses also had their information compromised by the leak, though the database appears to include some duplicate entries as well.

The office of Attorney General Rob Bonta (D.) did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

riiiight, because guns aren’t targets of burglaries.


and some have to learn their lesson the hard way when they get lead pumped into them by homeowners with guns

not that your post has much to do with what I posted, but I would bet good money that the number of people shot with their own gun every year dwarfs the number of homeowners who shoot a burglar.

Some relevant research…

4. Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal

We analyzed data from two national random-digit-dial surveys conducted under the auspices of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of the purported self-defense gun use rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective

6. Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, we investigated how and when guns are used in the home. We found that guns in the home are used more often to frighten intimates than to thwart crime; other weapons are far more commonly used against intruders than are guns.

9-10. Few criminals are shot by decent law-abiding citizens

Using data from surveys of detainees in six jails from around the nation, we worked with a prison physician to determine whether criminals seek hospital medical care when they are shot. Criminals almost always go to the hospital when they are shot. To believe fully the claims of millions of self-defense gun uses each year would mean believing that decent law-abiding citizens shot hundreds of thousands of criminals. But the data from emergency departments belie this claim, unless hundreds of thousands of wounded criminals are afraid to seek medical care. But virtually all criminals who have been shot went to the hospital, and can describe in detail what happened there.