Lupillus, that’s not your dog is it? I thought yours is Ratso in your avatar?
That’s a Bunun tugou in the pic and an absolutely outstanding-looking one at that!
Edit: Sorry, I didn’t see the top pic of Ratso. He’s looking good.
[quote=“sandman”]Lupillus, that’s not your dog is it? I thought yours is Ratso in your avatar?
That’s a Bunun tugou in the pic and an absolutely outstanding-looking one at that![/quote]
Of course not. My dog is much more evil looking. 
I simply forgot to post the link to my dog… 
I’ve never kenneled/crated any of the dogs in my care (more than 60 now). This way, they see the house, not the crate, as their home, and pee outside accodingly, as dogs never want to mess in their own ‘den’. Sure, we have a few accidents in the beginning, but they learn very quickly once they start to go outside.
He is in a room with three cats, and one of them sleeps on his bed with him. He really is as good as gold, and I want him to go to the kind of home he deserves. If you have experience with dogs and are in this for the long haul, you’d be ideal. He has learned everything by positive reinforcement, by the way, as he was very nervous (semi-feral). I’ve never had to punish him. He just wants to please. I don’t think you’d be disappointed if you met him. You would just need to appreciate that he is a little shy at first, but he’s so keen to be with people that he’ll come around very quickly - especially after he’s realised you’re the food giver.
Let me know when you’re starting to weaken. 
The only trouble for me with these dogs is that I’d want at least three or four. And I’d want to hunt with them. We happened across a pig hunt a year or two back in the mountains of Ilan County involving about 15-20 tugous. Pretty impressive to watch them work.
Wow, that black dog is gorgeous. It almost looks like a cat. I always thought that those tugos were the ugliest things I’d ever seen. Every time somebody would come on here to try and talk some poor sucker into adopting an extremely damaged-looking brown heap of flesh I would think “What the hell are they thinking?!”
But that dog is something else.
I would get a dog like that, and I don’t like dogs.
Believe it or not, I’m actually not against hunting for food. I feel that an animal deserves to have as natural a life as possible before being slaughtered humanely, and, of course, hunting gives us that most of the time. It’s nature. I couldn’t do it myself, though. Couldn’t even fish. 
You poor man. You poor, poor man.
I feed them. I buy that cat food and throw it in the pond. That counts, right?
Stray Dog:
Didn’t I meet you at a HH in the Taipei Sports bar once? You brought in one of your adopted dogs. As I feel sad about many dogs life here in Taiwan, the reason for me to get a dog is not base on these feelings. I think dogs bring a certain pleasure in you life, but at the same time you are stuck with them for a long time.
Having that said, I rather look at certain characteristics, that also include appearance and other physical and characterial attributes that I am happy with. I am facinated by the shape, apearance and color of Weimaraners, and their general physical capabilities. As you mentioned, being of a certain breed, is no guarantee for those traits and you would have to meet the parent. That is exactly the reason why I want to find a breeder, rather than buying one from the local pet store, or adopting a dog from a shelter. True, a breeder might charge more, but I will have that guy around for the next 10 years or so. And considering the time span, I think I would want to get a dog that I really like, rather than taking too much of a risk.
Anyway, as with all larger things I am purchasing, I usually do some research. At the moment I just wanted to see, if Weimaraners from trustworthy breeders are available in Taiwan, and maybe meet some of them. Then I would probably have to do some more reading about Weimaraners in general, before I am making my decision. Maybe I might switch to a different breed afterall, if I think I won’t be able to give one of them an appropriate home.
Thanks again for you help, maybe we meet again at one of the HH’s.
Hi, Ratlung. I do remember meeting you, yes. Can’t remember what you look lik, though. Just remember the name.
I completely understand about why you want a purebred. I won’t go into my usual argument of why I believe a mixed breed is better 
I hope you understand it stems from my belief that we shouldn’t be breeding more dogs when so many perfectly good pets are being killed every week from lack of available homes. Anyway, I can see you are dead set on getting a purebred, so I’ll move on.
The vet that we use in Tianmu, YangMing Veterinary Partners, has a Weimeraner and it seems a beautiful, healthy dog. You may want to try contacting him (Dr. Yang on Tienmu E. Rd, not Chung Shan) to see if he knows where you can get one of good stock. You seem to know what you’re talking about, so I’m sure if you get to meet the breeder and parents you would be able to tell if the animal is going to be what you’re looking for.
Although, as Maoman said, it is very unlikely you will find a reputable breeder here, you might find a dog (probably not a pup) that a local as bought from a reputable breeder from abroad but who now wants to give the dog away. You would be surprised how many beautiful, perfect, very expensive purebreds get abandoned once the owners realise just what a responsibility they can be.
The last time I was at the Neihu shelter, there was a large number of ‘purebreds’. Once again, you can’t guarantee the parentage, but as the dog will be past the puppy stage, you should be able to tell if it’s what you’re looking for. While Weimeraners are pretty rare here, being a dog that requires a lot of care and attention (and activity), they are likelier candidates for abandonment.
I’ll keep my eyes open for one, Ratlung, and will let you know if I come across any you may be interested in.
Good luck.
Sean
[quote=“Stray Dog”]Hi, Ratlung. I do remember meeting you, yes. Can’t remember what you look lik, though. Just remember the name.
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I am that blond tall German guy, I was at Taipei Sports Bar with my dad.
[quote=“Stray Dog”]
I completely understand about why you want a purebred. I won’t go into my usual argument of why I believe a mixed breed is better [/quote]
I am totally aware of the advantages of mixed breeds, and the risk of getting a messed up pure bred dog. That is probably why I want to be extra careful, especially here in Taiwan, where a dog’s life does not seem to be worth much.
[quote=“Stray Dog”]
I hope you understand it stems from my belief that we shouldn’t be breeding more dogs when so many perfectly good pets are being killed every week from lack of available homes. Anyway, I can see you are dead set on getting a purebred, so I’ll move on.[/quote]
Well, I perfectly understand your believes, and I must admit, sometimes I have similar thoughts. Also, most of the mixed bred dog does not raise too much interest in me that I would actually adopt or buy one. There is something about these Weimaraners that fascinates me. Unfortunately, I have never got to know one as close as I wanted to.
[quote=“Stray Dog”]
The vet that we use in Tianmu, YangMing Veterinary Partners, has a Weimeraner and it seems a beautiful, healthy dog. You may want to try contacting him (Dr. Yang on Tianmu E. Rd, not Zhongshan) to see if he knows where you can get one of good stock. [/quote]
I will keep this in mind, and if I did some more reading on Weimaraners, I might just contact him.
[quote=“Stray Dog”]
I’ll keep my eyes open for one, Ratlung, and will let you know if I come across any you may be interested in.[/quote]
If you see a healthy abandoned one, please let me know, I would love to take a closer look. I just want to be very careful with this, as my time is limited, and I am not sure if I can make the time at the moment anyway. But it never hurts to do some research.
Thanks for your help.
Ratlung, PLEASE take into consideration that if you have a full-time job, your Weimaraner will totally climb the walls with boredom and frustration. These dogs need SPACE to run. Even if you take it out for an hour in the morning and an hour at night, this is nowhere even close to sufficient.
You can expect your dog to develop all kinds of weird behaviour traits if it’s left all day in a crate. No way will you be able to leave it loose in your apartment – it will destroy it.
You really need to remember that these are bred specifically to be WORKING dogs and need to be really worked. They’re not like labs and spaniels, which can adapt quite easily to a sedentary existence.
Owning a Weimaraner takes huge committment and a great deal of time.
[quote=“sandman”]You can expect your dog to develop all kinds of weird behaviour traits if it’s left all day in a crate. No way will you be able to leave it loose in your apartment – it will destroy it.
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Yes, listen to Sandman… he is 100% correct. When I lived in Miami, I went on a short vacation and a friend of mine would go walk my Weim a few times a day for 30 minutes each. Well that was not enough. When I got back home the dog had chewed my couch to hell, all the baseboards, the blinds, the carpet. In all he did over $6000 US in damage to the house (I was renting)… You really have to spend hours of STRENEOUS exercise with these dogs or they will be miserable…
Sandman, Monk, thanks for sharing your experiences. I guess I am just starting to do my research on those dogs. Please tell me, how did you manage to keep them occupied? Weren’t you guys having a full time job as well back when you had them? I had a colleague back in Milwaukee who owned one of those great dogs, but he never mentioned anything about such problems, and he was/is working full time. Maybe I should contact him to find out details. But thanks guys.
Mine were kept outside in runs. In summer, I’d get up at 6, exercise/train the dogs until 8, come home at lunchtime and let them out for a bit then, and exercise/train them for a couple of hours in the evening. Considering we were also dealing with up to seven springers and a few labs at the same time, it wasn’t nearly enough. My dad used to do a lot of the work and we had a couple of local kids who would take them out after school and such, but they used to get pretty depressed and weird during the closed shooting season months due to the lack of exercise.
You have to understand, this was just enough to keep them going until shooting season, when they’d be out three times a week on average, when they’d go at full-pelt through thick brush and heather for 7 or 8 hours each time, and they would STILL be bouncing around after that.
I just don’t believe they’re pet dogs.
Edit: Ratlung, here’s a quiz I found on whether you’re ready to take on a Weimaraner. Try it. I guarantee there is nothing in there that is exaggerated.
These are not dogs for Taiwan.
Oh, dear.
I was out forced out of the running on the third question, “Are you ready to stop me hunting down your cat or other pet or even small children until blood has been spilt.”
And there’s the first hint that Stray Dog is taking the piss. Once a Weimaraner starts hunting, it’s not a question of being “ready to stop” him. You just won’t. It’s their raison d’etre. If you have one here in Taiwan, I guarantee that it WILL chase cats, and not like other dogs chase cats. It will chase until it makes a kill. If the cat runs under a car or truck, the dog will simply move or destroy the vehicle… OK OK, I made that last part up but still, you get the picture.
Holy shit, that survey points to exactly all the traits I experienced in my 11 years with Hide, and in those 11 years he never calmed down up until the last few days. You are right Sandman, no exaggeration whatsoever.
Wonderful dogs though if you have the space, energy, and patience, but it is true, they never really learn who is the boss.
Sandman, you didnt go overboard with that statement too much. Once mine ran up on top of my neighboors car after a cat. Luckily it was an old car so he didnt care.
Hide liked my cats, but for all the cats or other animals he would leave at my door, I did have pity. And you are right once they see something to chase they do not stop. Hide had a strange like towards small white dogs… He would do his best to kill them any chance he got. He even killed two racoons which are known for their Ferocious behavior.
Overall he costs me much more than all the animals I have ever had combined in vet bills and damages. But I wouldnt change a thing given the chance.
Interesting quiz, but not many suprises there. Actually, sounds almost like my moms dog. In some traits he is worth, in others, points go towards the Weimaraner. Anyway, I do agree that it might not be a good idea to have one living in an appartment. It also seems there are no trustworthy breeders here in Taiwan, so getting one here is not an option anyway. The purpose of this thread is to get informed, maybe the topic is a little off. But thanks for the link to the quiz, I had to bookmark this webpage. :bravo: :bravo: Thanks for finding it. :bravo: :bravo: