What I heard about Iraq in 2005

lrb.co.uk/v28/n01/wein01_.html

This is a link.

Shall I click on it?

If so, what happens then?

Will I see Saddam naked?

Too scared to click, too young to die,

Bob H.

you are right not to go their Bobh…its a one sided rant. Come on feiren…show us some positive news.

Chou

I heard the WTC was taken out by squirrels wearing tutu’s.

A small sample, but this stuff is more interesting…come on people now…accentuate the positive.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneweb/mb_030726.htm

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1840

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/r/rydbom.htm

http://www.kmax.ws/b/goodnewsiniraq.htm

Chou

You weren’t using the bottom of an empty bottle of Wild Turkey for a telescope when you saw those “squirrels” dressed in pink were you, Tainan Cowboy?

[quote=“spook”][quote=“TainanCowboy”]I heard the WTC was taken out by squirrels wearing tutu’s.[/quote]You weren’t using the bottom of an empty bottle of Wild Turkey for a telescope when you saw those “squirrels” dressed in pink were you, Tainan Cowboy?[/quote]It would have been Makers Mark, Knob Creek or Early Times.
And all of the squirrels asked to be called ‘Desmond.’

ny squirrels could easily have done it.

HAHAHAHAHA

Feiren has it right, and I can’t help wondering how on earth it is that the Republican leadership hate our country and troops this much. If they even slightly gave a crap about our nation and those who serve it, they would at least try.

Why is the US fighting in Iraq? The squirrel theory sounds about as good as anything that Bush or his people have come up with.

Gee…some news about Iraq…

[quote]Iraqi soldiers in joint forces exceed 115,000
– Iraqi Defense Ministry, MIL-IRAQ-TROOPS

Iraqi soldiers in joint forces exceed 115,000 – Iraqi Defense Ministry

BAGHDAD, April 8 (KUNA) – The number of Iraqi soldiers in the joint forces of the Iraqi army and the Multi-National-Forces exceeded 115,000 ground, airforce and navy troops, who are stationed across Iraq, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said Saturday.

This announcement comes a day before the anniversary marking the toppling of the Saddam Hussein regime on April 9 2003.

The ministry said in a statement that the Iraqi forces continue their military operations to ensure good conditions for the new cabinet and to restore the country’s security and stability.

It added that the Iraqi army forces have received the security mission in many important Iraqi areas.

The statement quoted the defense minister, Dr. Saadoun Al-Dleimi as saying that the Iraqi army is growing, praising the capability of the officers and the vital role played by the soldiers in this important historical stage.

He praised the major accomplishments that have been achieved recently, such as uprooting terrorists in many areas and establishing a national army made up of the different Iraqi sects. (end) mhg.
kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx? … SNO=849252[/quote]

Hmmm…more from Iraq…

[quote]Iraqis fought for freedom
By SALIM MANSUR

We are seeing a curious development on the third anniversary of Iraq’s liberation: The liberators of that once-wretched gulag – the Americans, specifically the Bush administration – are now being scorned by many for base motives and misguided thinking.

Critics of President George Bush and the war have been relentless in their opposition since the removal of Saddam Hussein. They blame the U.S. for the bloody-minded insurgency that is now pitilessly unsheathing its barbarity to extinguish the first whiff of freedom in a culture overburdened by a long history of tyranny.

Historians will argue over details of the war, faulting the planning and execution through wisdom garnered in hindsight. They will reach their tentative conclusions with the perspective of time. Similarly, those of us who supported freedom for Iraqis, as I did, and remain unmoved by the critics, have also come to a twin understanding of history and human nature in general.

Iraq is diverse ethnically and religiously. But from the beginning of Arab-Muslim history until the overthrow of Saddam, Iraq – land of the two rivers – was ruled by despots from the minority Sunni Arab tribes.

Every Iraqi knows the words of al-Hadjadj ibn Yusuf, sent from Damascus as governor of Iraq (694-714 CE) following one of many rebellions in the area. Here are a few words from his memorable speech:

“By God, O people of Iraq, people of discord and dissembling and evil character … I shall strip you like bark, I shall truss you like a bundle of twigs, I shall beat you like stray camels … I swear by God that you will keep strictly to the true path, or I shall punish every man of you in body.”

For 13 centuries the political culture of this area and surrounding region was shaped by despots. Hence, as shriveled lungs require time to reacquire the ability to breathe naturally, so do people who have never experienced freedom to build democracy.

It is not surprising that segments of Iraqi Arabs, belonging primarily to the Sunni sect, in collusion with radical Islamists from abroad, have turned a portion of Iraq into a Hobbesian world of murder and mayhem.

What has been remarkable is the instinct for freedom that has led most Iraqis to resist falling into the hell that descendants of al-Hadjadj ibn Yusuf want to push them into – with sectarian provocations, suicide-bombings and incitement against their liberators.

History is non-linear, its progress accompanied with any number of momentary reversals, its heroes prey to assassins’ weapons, its freedom songs never fully concordant with children’s dreams and their parents’ prayers.

In September 1943, Winston Churchill traveled to Boston to receive an honorary degree from Harvard. The future of freedom’s struggle against fascism hung in the balance as Churchill reminded the assembled audience: "The price of greatness is responsibility. If the people of the United States had continued in a mediocre station… absorbed in their own affairs… they might have remained forgotten and undisturbed beyond their protecting oceans.

“But one cannot rise to be in many ways the leading community in the civilized world without being involved in its problems, without being convulsed by its agonies and inspired by its causes… The people of the United States cannot escape world responsibility.”

In defeating and rebuilding Germany and Japan, Americans displayed, despite lapses, responsibility in extending freedom’s frontiers.

Similarly, Bush’s decision to remove Saddam from power in the post-9/11 world has been vindicated – despite what the critics say – by Iraqis acquiring freedom. Now they must learn the inherent risks of freedom – risks they must either responsibly avoid, or, failing that, for which they must be accountable without blaming others.
torontosun.com/News/Columnis … 25277.html[/quote]

Its from Canada…that still counts…doesn’t it?

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Hmmm…more from Iraq…

[quote]Iraqis fought for freedom
By SALIM MANSUR


It is not surprising that segments of Iraqi Arabs, belonging primarily to the Sunni sect, in collusion with radical Islamists from abroad, have turned a portion of Iraq into a Hobbesian world of murder and mayhem.

What has been remarkable is the instinct for freedom that has led most Iraqis to resist falling into the hell that descendants of al-Hadjadj ibn Yusuf want to push them into – with sectarian provocations, suicide-bombings and incitement against their liberators.[/quote][/quote]

Alas, Mr. Salim has apparently missed the latest official stance of the US. It’s no longer those evil descendants of al-Hadjadj ibn Yusuf i.e. the Sunnis, that are the greatest threat to liberated Iraq- it’s the militias from his own Shi’ite community, who have (according to American officials) stopped resisting falling into hell, and have jumped in with both feet.

[quote]Threat of Shiite Militias Now Seen As Iraq’s Most Critical Challenge

BAGHDAD, April 7 – Shiite Muslim militias pose the greatest threat to security in many parts of Iraq, having killed more people in recent months than the Sunni Arab-led insurgency, and will likely present the most daunting and critical challenge for Iraq’s new government, U.S. military and diplomatic officials say.

Assassinations, many carried out by Shiite gunmen against Sunni Arabs in Baghdad and elsewhere, accounted for more than four times as many deaths in March as bombings and other mass-casualty attacks, according to military data. And most officials agree that only a small percentage of shooting deaths are ever reported.[/quote]

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 006/04/07/

I wonder if his gratitude is quite so fervent now that it’s his sect that is being blamed by the liberators?

[quote]http://www.torontosun.com/

Its from Canada…that still counts…doesn’t it?[/quote]

Not if it’s the Sun- it’s a Murdoch copy-cat tabloid; page 3 girls and populist right-wing blather.

Put on a Happy Face :slight_smile:

[quote]WASHINGTON, April 8

[quote=“MikeN”][quote=“TainanCowboy”]http://www.torontosun.com/

Its from Canada…that still counts…doesn’t it?[/quote]

Not if it’s the Sun- it’s a Murdoch copy-cat tabloid; page 3 girls and populist right-wing blather.[/quote]
He’s correct on that score. The Sun is troglodytic trash. You know what they do on their letters to the editor page? Get this: they put cheeky editorial comments in parentheses after each letter, either affirming the rightwing position of the letter writer or making sarcastic fun of any non-conforming viewpoint.

Utter garbage, it is.

[quote=“porcelainprincess”]You know what they do on their letters to the editor page? Get this: they put cheeky editorial comments in parentheses after each letter, either affirming the rightwing position of the letter writer or making sarcastic fun of any non-conforming viewpoint.
Utter garbage, it is.[/quote]Kinda like the threads on Forumosa.com…eh?

[quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote=“porcelainprincess”]You know what they do on their letters to the editor page? Get this: they put cheeky editorial comments in parentheses after each letter, either affirming the rightwing position of the letter writer or making sarcastic fun of any non-conforming viewpoint.
Utter garbage, it is.[/quote]Kinda like the threads on Forumosa.com…eh?[/quote]

Yeah, but no Page Three girls :frowning: (or boys- can’t be sexist, now.)