What is wrong with Canada (Nearly 40% of Taiwanese immigrants to Canada have left in 20 years)

Mind-numbingly boring . . . and really vapid people.

Yes reading your posts I can completely understand your point.

Guy

This is an excellent point, similar to @Andrew0409 's point above about Taiwanese being allowed to collect multiple passports. Canada of course allows this too, with even more flexibility.

Guy

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Interesting. So Canada is less welcoming of immigrants now.

Doing some self-reflection, huh?

@DKaoshuing there are a lot of moving pieces. I don’t think you can reduce it to welcoming / less welcoming, unless you compare it to a place like the US in 2025 which is currently horribly hostile.

Canada has taken in a far higher percentage of newcomers than the US has in recent years. Many of these newcomers head to Canada’s biggest cities, which are dealing with housing crises (too expensive, and not enough units). As a result, the Trudeau government scaled things back, reducing the number of incoming international students for example. This in turn is causing pain to universities which had counted on those students and the tuition they pay. As I said, there are lots of moving pieces.

Canada will have a new government in a few weeks. We’ll see what kinds of policies are put in place by the winner.

Guy

How long after they qualified for a passport did they leave?

I know a young Portugese couple. Young, goodlooking, in governement jobs and very anti-immigrant. I dont know why but it was quite shocking to hear the views they had. Apparently Portugal has an election coming up and they were telling me that a lot of people are going to be voting for a controversial rightwing candidate.
They were telling me how much the UK city we live in has changed since they moved here 8 years ago. I was in the city center last night and they are not wrong. Whether it is better or worse is debatable. It certainly isnt the same place as 10 years ago though. With the shop signs in different languages and the amount of different languages being spoken, it isnt obvious where you are.

Yeah, the new immigrants even think there are too many!

Yeah I am one of them lol I know lots of foreigners with multiple citizenships already.
It’s not a big deal if you have them or not. I don’t really care for the foreign passports I have. They don’t do a lot for me as I don’t live in the countries they allow to access to.

The problem in Canada is they let in people on points who are educated professionals but then deny them professional memberships or licensing claiming their qualifications are not recognized for their occupational skills.

In case you missed it, the point is compare to other neighbouring nations such as South Korea and Japan which don’t play this multiple passport game the same way.

Guy

Well Taiwan does not need to compare or to follow other countries like South Korea or Japan or Singapore China etc. Each country has their own soveriegn right to decide what they feel is best for each nation. Why not compare it to Malta where a spouse can get citizenship after five years of marriage with no language or residency requirement?

Does Canada do that? USA? UK? Australia?

The UK is particularly strange.

I was talking to British girls in my industry that brought up how the UK has a racism problem.

When asking me my opinion (I guess because I was the only none white person in that conversation) I told them I never felt racism towards me in any way in the UK. I actually think it’s one of the positives I see in the UK as I feel pretty accepted into society and no one seemed to question my being there as anything out of the ordinary.

I never got any questions like “where are you from” or something of that nature or faced any discrimination or discomfort of being there.

They seemed to be surprised by my answer and some kind of rejected or brushed it off as oh because East Asians are not discriminated against.

Canadia has a disproportionately high number of parachute kids, who move there without their parents for educational purposes.

Or: had. That was really a thing in the 1990s and after. Nowadays I’m not so sure.

Guy

Quite a few Chinese kids with homestay and in the public schools, I was surprised by the numbers

Absolutely. I’m unsure about this a Taiwanese practice in Canada now. By contrast, I’ve heard lots recently about Chinese kids being dumped off by parents, especially kids who seem to have been flailing in their home country’s education system . . . :slightly_frowning_face:

Guy

I don’t know much about Canada so I’m presuming it is a similar place to immigrate to as Australia seeing as the countries have a lot of similarities (apart from the weather).

I think Taiwanese have a habit of getting caught up in headline news hype which is always negative. Giving them a ‘grass is always greener’ view. This probably contributed to their immigration in the first place.

How does Canada deal with society’s drop kicks? Australia just gives them taxpayer money. The louder and dumber, the more free money. If this gets much worse in AU we will leave back to TW. Encouraging laziness is a huge problem and something Taiwan does not do.

Also I’ve heard Taiwanese in Australia complain that there are too many immigrants here. Some of them are still on temporary visas and want permanent residency so this doesn’t make sense to me. I think someone above mentioned Taiwanese immigrants to Canada doing the same thing.

Also what about the ‘need’ for Taiwanese to care for aging parents? And on that, potential inheritance? - semi on topic but my sister’s husband is Egyptian and mine is Taiwanese and we both have the same agreement with our respective spouse. ‘My parents will never live with us. Your parents will never live with us. If this becomes non-negotiable we go our separate ways’

they probably mean people from China ?

your thinking is not traditional taiwanese i may say. Most taiwanese who have money may have their own apt different from their kids, but the kids are not far away usually.

It was mostly me who needed to have the certainty of no parents with us but it needed to be fair. If I was single my parents would never live with me either so it didn’t really make much difference to me.

I need to meet more rich people it seems :rofl: