I don’t know what country you’re talking about, but it sure isn’t the U.S. Most of the people I know who have lost their jobs since 2000 are either still unemployed or exhausted their UI benefits long before they found another job. Typically it’s taken a year and a half to find another job, and usually that job is nowhere nearly at the same skill level, much less pay level, of the job they had before.
[quote=“Alleycat”]You sound just like Michael Moore.
I’m almost as fat as Michael Moore! But not as ugly. And I don’t think I sound anything like him.
I’m not calling for protectionism or blaming foreign workers. I am saying that the federal government shouldn’t be allowing people to move here solely to take jobs at lower pay. If someone immigrates to the U.S. and then gets a job, great. But for the U.S. government to let a company get a visa for an employee, SOLELY to bring someone in to work for low pay, simply because the company doesn’t want to pay an American worker – it’s damaging to everyone.
GM didn’t bring in tens of thousands of Mexicans to work in its plants; GM took the time and trouble to relocate its manufacturing to Mexico.
Tyson Foods sent trucks to the border to bring in wetbacks for chicken processing, and (last I heard) was being prosecuted in federal court for immigration violations as a result.
Meanwhile, a Boeing subcontractor called me to arrange an interview to go back to my old job (same exact one I did for Boeing three years ago, sitting in the same floor in the same building, about four cubicles down from my old one). Turns out they were told that they couldn’t get an H1-B visa approved since Boeing had recently laid off so many people with identical skills to what they were requesting. Instead, without even bothering to interview me, the company’s manager flew to Washington D.C. to lobby the INS in person (read: probably to fork over some “Christmas cash” to the INS visa approver), got the visa approved this time, and came back. About a week later, an Indian programmer started at Boeing, sitting in that cubicle. All without even bothering to talk to me after arranging that interview with me as a “last-ditch backup”.
Not only does this directly violate the H1-B visa law, it means that I, and others like me, are unemployed while Indians are brought in to replace us at jobs we could do.
Incidentally, the pay rate they quoted me was 56% of what I had been making at that job three years earlier. I have no idea what they’re paying the Indian, but it’s probably about half that. And since the feds don’t take Social Security taxes for H1-B visa workers, that means less money being paid into the SocSec program, less tax revenue for the feds, more unemployment compensation being paid out to me (and others in the same boat). . . .
Who benefits? Well, the Indian gets to save a few bucks to take home with him when he goes back. Boeing saves a very small amount, since the contracting company isn’t going to change how much they’re charging Boeing. The contracting company makes a bundle since they’re paying less in wages. Everyone else loses.
These jobs are already being lost as fast as companies can set up an internet connection to Bangalore. With real unemployment running over 10% now – the 6.4% rate is people currently collecting benefits, and doesn’t count those who have already exhausted their benefits – it is insanity itself to import more workers just so companies can save a buck. In effect, these jobs are just as “lost” as the jobs that have moved offshore.