Who do you look up to?

True, he slept with them - he didn’t have sex with them. In his later years, Gandhi took a vow of celibacy. In order to test himself, he had younger girls in his bed. The idea of his “experiment” was to see if he became “aroused” by the presence of the girls. From all I’ve read, he didn’t, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

Viagra didn’t come out until 2000 or so.[/quote]

That reminds of the quote, I think it was Oscar Wilde, about how virtue doesn’t come from abstaining from sin where there is no temptation. In other words, people with low or non-existent sex drives have no right to act as if they’re morally superior because of it.

Or as Michael Caine put it, “What people mistake as virtue in the middle-aged is merely fatigue.”

I don’t look up to anybody. Especially some singer or supid ass poet/actor. C’mon, get yourselves together. Onyl person I would look up to is my father. Other than that :raspberry: .

Lovely way for a young person to be introduced to the pleasures of love. :loco:

[quote=“j99l88e77”]I don’t look up to anybody. Especially some singer or supid ass poet/actor. C’mon, get yourselves together. Onyl person I would look up to is my father. Other than that :raspberry: .[/quote]I look up to j9.

bobepine

[quote=“bismarck”][quote=“Durins Bane”][quote=“bismarck”]
General Heinz Guderian
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Interesting. As for “looking up to people” I would of picked Erik von Manstein.[/quote]

Heinz Guderian was the father of modern armoured warfare. He revolutionised the tactical, operational and strategic usage of the armoured platform. He wrote books about all his ideas, specifically Achtung! Panzer! The main ideas concerned the concept of Blitzkrieg, manoueverability and speed in modern warfare. His works on the subject weren’t taken seriously by the allies prior to hostilities in 1939 much to their chagrin as his 5th Army smashed the allied forces having traversed the Ardennes forest. This was a move that no one at the time thought possible, which caught the French and the Brits unawares.
Also to his credit, he was vehemently opposed to the Nazi’s (one of the reasons why he never made Field Marshal) and he was also oppossed to the politicisation of the armed forces, and the banning of Jews from the armed forces.

As found in Wikipedia (and other sources), “Guderian was not charged with any war crimes during the Nuremberg Trials, as his actions and behavior were considered consistent with that of a professional soldier.”

No idea who Erik Von Manstein was. Sorry.[/quote]

You know Guderian but not von Manstein? Look to the East and that’s where you will find generals of merit.

[quote=“bobepine”][quote=“j99l88e77”]I don’t look up to anybody. Especially some singer or supid ass poet/actor. C’mon, get yourselves together. Onyl person I would look up to is my father. Other than that :raspberry: .[/quote]I look up to j9.

bobepine[/quote]

Now people are starting to make sense. :bravo:

I look up to most basketball players.

A few of my personal heroes

James Brown
Fred Wesley
Maceo Parker
Bootsy Collins
(various others from the JB line up)
Marvin Gaye
Berry Gordy
Dennis Coffey
Lee "Scratch"Perry
King Tubby
Duke Reid
Coxsone Dodd

from film

Sergio Leone
The Shaw Brothers
Akira Kurosawa
Alejandro Jodorowsky
Beat Takeshi
Hayao Miyasaki
Stanley Kubrick
Matt Groening

elsewhere

Muhammad Ali
MLK
Kofi Annan
Mandela
and anyone like John Moss says who can take in another persons child as there own. HGC… you also get praise from me :notworthy:

Damn… I have too many to list.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kilgour

For character and now helping expose the greatest evil since Auschwitz. No, since Pol Pot, or since Rwanda, or since some other gross evil. Satan lives. Boycott China!

<— And I also admire her! I saw her interviewed while floating, and she was just totally cool!
She is Iranian-American astronaut Anousheh Ansari.

People I admire, not idolize:

Founding Fathers and other political/intellectual figures of early America
James Madison
Thomas Jefferson
John Jay
John Quincy Adams
Thomas Paine
Ben Franklin
William Lloyd Garrison

Poets
William Shakespeare
Emily Dickenson
Walt Whitman
Pablo Neruda

Actors
Audrey Hepburn
Vanessa Redgrave
Derek Jacobi
Patrick Stewart

Writers
Kurt Vonnegut
John Updike
John Steinbeck
Christopher Hitchens
Orson Scott Card
G.K. Chesterton

Philosophers
Thomas Aquinas
Niccolo Machiavelli (greatly misunderstood)
David Hume
Thomas Hobbes
Baron D’Holbach
Daniel Dennett

Freethinkers
Oscar Wilde
Robert G. Ingersol
Clarence Darrow
Richard Dawkins
Paul Davies

If I had to pick one from each category, it would be Thomas Paine, Pablo Neruda, Derek Jacobi, Kurt Vonnegut, Niccolo Machiavelli, and Robert G. Ingersol.

Stray Dog,

Why Castro? I can only assume high ideals in his younger years. But death squads, political repression, social oppression, failed economic policies, and collusion with the enemies of democracy are not usually considered admirable.

[quote=“gao_bo_han”]Stray Dog,

Why Castro? I can only assume high ideals in his younger years. But death squads, political repression, social oppression, failed economic policies, and collusion with the enemies of democracy are not usually considered admirable.[/quote]

He was forced to do those things because the US decided not to engage in trade with Cuba.

[quote=“Hobbes”][quote=“gao_bo_han”]Stray Dog,

Why Castro? I can only assume high ideals in his younger years. But death squads, political repression, social oppression, failed economic policies, and collusion with the enemies of democracy are not usually considered admirable.[/quote]

He was forced to do those things because the US decided not to engage in trade with Cuba.[/quote]

When the French reoccupied Indochina immediately following the end of WWII, Ho Chi Minh wrote Truman and the State Department several times, pleading for Washington to intervene on behalf of the natives. He appealed to our revolutionary past and our support of democracy and human rights. He received no response. It was then that he “became” Communist and appealed to the Soviet Union. They listened. So by your reasoning, is the United States then responsible for all of Ho Chi Minh’s subsequent iniquities?

Also, Castro started nationalizing US holdings in Cuba before he visited the US in ’59, comically asking for enhanced trade and cooperation. It’s no wonder Eisenhower turned him a cold shoulder. It wasn’t until a couple of years later when we enforced a complete embargo, after Castro had nationalized virtually all American assets and had forged hard ties with Khrushchev. Are we really to blame for the ten of thousands of arrests, drumhead trials, cruel imprisonments and executions which followed over the next four decades?