the dangers of selective quotation 
How much does a cum analyst get paid?[/quote]
Theyāre paid in kind, usually. Although my little sister spent a couple of summers doing turkey, sheep and dolphin cum analysis. Good money, but the conditions were a bitā¦ sticky.
[quote=āAnubisā]Iāve been here for ten years and I DO NOT teach English.
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He just talks to people in English and gets paid for it!
I think almost everyone has at some point. I have edited, taught science, martial arts, done business, managed a cram school, been a dosser (no not tosser), and yes TAUGHT ENGLISH.
Oh I was even an actor once too!
When I first came to Taiwan 12 years ago, I had no idea about the English Teaching business. I followed my girl back here after uni so I had to get a job. I have a Sport Science degree and was managing a fitness centre in Sydney before I came here. Gyms were pretty non existant back then and I had no Chinese ability then anyway. But I did find a venue exclusive to foreigners and I set up my own Personal Training business on the side to teaching English. As I had to teach in the late afteroons and evenings, I had PT clients in the morning hours and around lunch time. I was making three times as much an hour with the PT than what I was teaching. But I then got a job in Human Resources. I was really torn between taking that job or to keep working with my PT business, but I chose to do the HR job as I felt it would be a good chance to learn new skills that I could use later when I finally returned to Australia, so I gave up the PT business. I worked in the HR position for 3 years being promoted to the HR manager position before I gave it up. I was a bit disappointed with that as I had worked so hard to get ahead, but getting divorced and being a single dad looking after my young boy, I went back to teaching to get an easy schedule. And I am still doing it now making more money than I was back at home and working less hoursā¦ Itās OK, but gets a little monotonous these days, but brings in the money and gives me more time to be with my boy. And I am only staying here so my boy can learn to read and write Chinese to a level so he wonāt forget when we do finally go home. So this is my sacrifice for him and I gotta put food on the table.
I was chatting with this TW woman I met while out one weekend and she asked me about my job. Kind of told her like I said above about my work in Taiwan and then when I mentioned that I was teaching now, she says, āOh, so you are an English Teacher. Thatās a turn off.ā So I just thought, F$%k you and politely excused myself.
My ex-wife also tried to say in court when we were fighting over custody of our boy that I was just a no hoper English Teacher with no skills and that is why I am in Taiwan teaching English like all the other foreign no hopers. Kind of pissed me off as if that was how she thought of me, especially since I gave up my cool fitness centre managers position to come to Taiwan to be with herā¦
From September, I will stop my morning teaching position, and I have a few ideas going on to start some small business opportunities. Gonna take some time to put them down on paper, then check their viablilty and then do a trial to put them into practice. It will still involve that great talent that everyone loves here, the ability to speak Englishā¦
Ha, I have also worked in TV commercials and a movie, that was fun.
[quote=āTaipeiSeanā]I was chatting with this TW woman I met while out one weekend and she asked me about my job. Kind of told her like I said above about my work in Taiwan and then when I mentioned that I was teaching now, she says, āOh, so you are an English Teacher. Thatās a turn off.ā So I just thought, F$%k you and politely excused myself.
My ex-wife also tried to say in court when we were fighting over custody of our boy that I was just a no hoper English Teacher with no skills and that is why I am in Taiwan teaching English like all the other foreign no hopers. Kind of pissed me off as if that was how she thought of me, especially since I gave up my cool fitness centre managers position to come to Taiwan to be with herā¦[/quote]
Yepā¦off putting, as if thatās all we are, were and ever will be. 
Screw 'em, mate.
You could come back with, oh so you are just an office worker.
:roflmao: Nice one!
It seems that a large proportion of females in Taipei are office workers or English teachers. Or maybe those are the only kinds of people I meet.
Well what other job would they do in Taipeiā¦just saying.
Yeah, theyāre all secretaries/receptionists or English teachers. ALL of them. I have like 20 female friends and they all basically do the same job.
Well I do know why girl who does manages a fund. But she would not give me the time of day. Actually she used to date a friend of mine who also managed investments for an insurance company. Actually I told him to stop dating such boring girls. He should try dating a nurse or something.
Yeah, theyāre all secretaries/receptionists or English teachers. ALL of them. I have like 20 female friends and they all basically do the same job.[/quote]
Thatās because itās Taipei City. Factories are not allowed operate within the city boundaries. Step outside Taipei city and itās a different story. There are more teachers and kindergarten workers in regular roles than English teachersā¦of course if you want to find somebody who speaks English wellā¦what do you expectā¦English teachers and office workers 
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What myths? Mr Heās not a native English speaker. Not a myth. He never taught English. Not a myth. He was a financial analyst, then a salesman, now runs his own business. Not a myth. He doesnāt know if English teaching is a dead end. Not a myth. If you end up in corporate training you can make real money. Absolutely not a myth! If you run a buxiban well you can make real money. Totally not a myth. There are other things in life besides money. Completely myth-free. The average English teacher makes more than the average Taiwanese uni grad. SO not a myth.
Youāre talking shite.[/quote]
āHe doesnāt know if English teaching is a dead endā means he doesnāt think teaching English is a dead end. The rest of his post is in support of that assertion.
Teaching English in Taiwan is a dead end, though. Corporate training? ā good luck. Opening a Buxiban?! ā probably a mistake. The underlying fact is there is no way to advance in the ESL field in Taiwan.
(1) There are generally no standards (I would simply say āno standards,ā but someone somewhere in Taiwan must value experience); so improving oneās skills does not equate to a more secure position.
(2) ESL experience in Taiwan is not transferable in the west.
So, by pointing people towards ESL, either directly or indirectly through false assertions of hope, you are leading them towards failure.
The comment about English teachers making more than Taiwanese is pointless. No westerner would work all day for 20k-30k NT. We can do better than that at Wal Mart or whatever made-in-China garbage vendor you have in your country.
How much does a cum analyst get paid?[/quote]
Oh its a highly paid job, like docs and therapists, they suck you dry. No pun intended. 
My ex had a cool job. She was a female body guard. Very strong woman, though still looking very feminine. She used to train everyday except when they had cases. She got to shoot hand guns, machine guns, do evasive driving training, abseiling down the side of buildings and armed and unarmed combat and defence training. They used to have a group of ex Isreali Military guys who had a security training business come over to Taiwan to do a big training every year. As her English was no problem and the Israeli guys also spoke English, she also used to do the translating. But she used to complain as the the 4 female body guards would always have to do the paperwork and reports for the male body guards as well as arrive at work earlier to prepare the office with such things as āteaā, but they would get paid less than the men. They would have to then do the same training as the men. I guess the pay difference was due to the difference between mens and womens push ups.
An example of a job she had to do was at a wedding, the bride had received death threats from the grooms ex, so she had to escort the bride everywhere she went on the day. She also went overseas with Chen Shui-bien once.
The funny thing is that during university, I used to take my martial arts seriously, competing in competitons getting same state and national titles, but she used to say she only trained for fun. Then when we come to Taiwan, she gets a job doing the fun stuff and I get stuck in a classroom teaching English with no time to trainā¦
But she also worked in an office for an English school and a law company. But the body guard job was much better paying.
How much does a cum analyst get paid?[/quote]
For that mate youād have to ask Lao Wang the urologist.
And sink to that level! Sean knows you donāt sully your hard shiny moral finish like that
Donāt knock nursesā¦ Iāve found them to be the best by farā¦ 
Donāt knock nursesā¦ Iāve found them to be the best by farā¦ [/quote]
Do you need me to translate that into German? I said that he should try dating a nurse. The point is to stop dating some boring girls in finance that only think about money.
Donāt knock nursesā¦ Iāve found them to be the best by farā¦ [/quote]
Do you need me to translate that into German? I said that he should try dating a nurse. The point is to stop dating some boring girls in finance that only think about money.[/quote]
Ooooā¦embarrassingā¦ I missed that somehow. 
Alrighty then. Carry on.