Who sends their kids to international schools, anyways?

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@Satellite_TV

Even those required an ARC and also had to pass an interview, an English test and academic test when my son went to AST. I also know that other schools also do the same thing. Just having a foreign passport is not enough to get into the schools,

The English test is a joke, as all international schools offer English support programs.

For example, check the TAS Grades 1-3 EAL program - this is clearly aimed at non-native English speakers:

Tuition & Fees - Taipei American School

The primary goal of EAL support at TAS is to help language learners develop language skills that will allow them to be successful in their academic work as well as in everyday communication.

@Satellite_TV

Anyway what does it matter who gets accepted into the international schools?

As stated earlier in this thread, I think it’s ridiculous that international schools are so full of Taiwanese children that children of foreign parents have to attend local Taiwanese schools.

Note, this is not just due to entrance requirements, but also due to how international schools are seen as “elite” which means there are no schools of this type with affordable schools.

@Satellite_TV

Steven Chen, Founder of you tube. ROC Citizen born in Taiwan, returned to Taiwan on the very first Gold Card ever issued.

That’s interesting. Maybe he gave up his Taiwanese passport/citizenship?

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

I’m questioning that citizens are legally permitted to live here on ARCs. I’m not questioning that people have done so without the government’s knowledge.

I am questioning how you do not know it is legally possible. lol

[Satellite_TV]

@cluckin_bell

@Satellite_TV

Steven Chen, Founder of you tube. ROC Citizen born in Taiwan, returned to Taiwan on the very first Gold Card ever issued.

That’s interesting. Maybe he gave up his Taiwanese passport/citizenship?

No, he did not.

[Satellite_TV]

Well even my son who has Taiwan National Passport can get an ARC if he wanted to.

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

Obviously nobody at the border is going to know you are Taiwanese if you enter with a foreign passport as a tourist.

Nonsense. What about all those people born in Taiwan as citizens who enter on a foreign passport. It’s not like place of birth is not written on their passports lol

[user86]

@Satellite_TV

It’s not like place of birth is not written on their passports

Just because you were born in Taiwan doesn’t mean you have Taiwanese citizenship. They could have renounced it. Or maybe they never applied in the first place.

[Satellite_TV]

@cluckin_bell

As stated earlier in this thread, I think it’s ridiculous that international schools are so full of Taiwanese children that children of foreign parents have to attend local Taiwanese schools.

A lot of foreign parents children attend local schools. My son went to local schools only having foreign citizenship. He finished his 5th and 6th grade at the elementary school in Alishan in the village where we live.

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

Just because you were born in Taiwan doesn’t mean you have Taiwanese citizenship. They could have renounced it. Or maybe they never applied in the first place.

Yeah OK lol Point is that ROC citizens can obtain an ARC. They can enter Taiwan on foreign passports.

Man with dual citizenship fined for dodging service - Taipei Times

每年持美護照返台 逃兵16年終被逮 - 社會 - 自由時報電子報

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@Satellite_TV

Well even my son who has Taiwan National Passport can get an ARC if he wanted to.

for nationals without HHR, there is no restriction which passport you use to stay in Taiwan.

[Satellite_TV]

@tando

for nationals without HHR, there is no restriction which passport you use to stay in Taiwan

The same for people with HHR and ID cards. I can enter Taiwan on my foreign passport if I want to. But then I need to leave and can only be here as a tourist.

[user86]

@tando

for nationals without HHR, there is no restriction which passport you use to stay in Taiwan.

How about for nationals with ID and HHR? Can they apply for an ARC if they also have a foreign passport?

[tando]

@user86

@tando

for nationals without HHR, there is no restriction which passport you use to stay in Taiwan.

How about for nationals with ID and HHR? Can they apply for an ARC?

Didn’t you read this reply? I don’t think they explain on their official site how to do an illegal thing.

Who sends their kids to international schools, anyways?

I’m questioning that citizens are legally permitted to living here on ARCs. I’m not questioning that people have done so without the government’s knowledge. How they should do is explained on the NIA site. assuming you mean nationals with HHR by “citizens”. 重國籍之申請人，應如何申請外僑居留證？能否申請永久居留資格？ （一） 具有雙重國籍之申請人如原在臺設有戶籍者，應先至戶政事務所辦理戶籍「遷出」登記，居留地服務站始得受理外僑居留證之申請。 前項申請，尚未履行兵役義務之接近役齡男子或役齡男子，有下列情形之一者，本署得不予受理： 1、未持有役政用華僑身分證明書或僑居身分加簽之我國護照。 2、僑民役男居住在臺灣地區屆滿1年。 3、依法應接受徵兵處理並限制出境。

@Satellite_TV

@tando

for nationals without HHR, there is no restriction which passport you use to stay in Taiwan

The same for people with HHR and ID cards. I can enter Taiwan on my foreign passport if I want to. But then I need to leave and can only be here as a tourist.

As explained in the site I linked, they should move out their HHR to get ARC, and there are some restrictions on male nationals with HHR at certain ages.

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

Or maybe they never applied in the first place.

People born here as children of citizens don’t apply for citizenship. Yes before 2000 to ROC fathers only.

[user86]

@Satellite_TV

People born here as children of citizens don’t apply for citizenship.

Maybe the parents aren’t citizens. You can’t know that just by looking at the birthplace in the child’s passport.

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

Just because you were born in Taiwan doesn’t mean you have Taiwanese citizenship.

Yeah just like my son hahahahaha

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

Maybe the parents aren’t citizens. You can’t know that just by looking at the birthplace in the child’s passport.

Well we are not talking about foreigners or people without citizenship. Your argument which has been proven to be incorrect is that citizens cannot get an ARC or enter Taiwan on a foreign passport.

[Satellite_TV]

@user86

How about for nationals with ID and HHR? Can they apply for an ARC if they also have a foreign passport?

You have been told they can. Why do you keep asking. FFS Steve Chen of you tube is Taiwanese and has an ARC

[user86]

@Satellite_TV

You have been told they can. Why do you keep asking.

Didn’t see your link until tando quoted it again.

[cluckin_bell]

Interestingly, TAS have removed the foreign visa/ARC requirement for admission in the past few years. They were the last holdout of this old rule.

This post quoted the TAS website in 2019:

Q. Must a student hold a valid foreign passport and visa to enter the school?

A. Yes. This is required by both the ROC government and TAS admission policy. No exceptions are made.

Compare with the latest TAS website - mention of “visa” is removed:
https://www.tas.edu.tw/admissions/application

Q. Must a student hold a valid foreign passport to enter the School?

A. Yes. This is required by both the ROC government and TAS admission policy. No exceptions are made.

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@user86

Didn’t see your link until tando quoted it again.

OK. So Roc citizens the only ARC they cannot hold is APRC. They can have others. They can enter Taiwan on foreign passports even as tourists as my sons mother has done when her Taiwan passport had not been renewed. My son has entered and left on Taiwan passport and Australian passport.

I have multiple citizenships but since I naturalized I have not entered Taiwan on a foreign passport. I can if I choose to.