Why are some things so relatively expensive in Taiwan?

Huh?

Especially IT and electronics stuff. It really mystifies…

For example. I was reading the other day that some Garmin GPS units are made in Taiwan. So the miser in me thinks that IF I ever wanted to buy a GPS unit, I will get a cracking deal on it here.
Here’s the example. Garmin 60csx

In the TW store: 17,500nt

now that seemed way expensive to me so I checked online, and without rebates and all that BS, it is still around 399USD.

The difference is around 126USD or 31% more. This is for a product made here…what’s the story?

Another example is a Buffalo Terrastation.

In the US, $599USD + $25USD postage. Here it was around 24-26000 at Guang Hua or the TKEC place. $128USD difference or 21% more.

It just astounds me. I really think I will start looking into buying my Taiwan made products online from the US :noway:

Been there, done that. :loco: Sometimes it’s just a question of availability, too. It’s so damned hard to find things here sometimes, and the English internet is soooo convenient.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong…I’ve heard that it is (or was) illegal to buy export items directly from the factory. Therefore you can only buy items that have been re-imported into Taiwan, hence the high price.

That’s what I heard too. I think there is something in the contract that forbids these companies from selling directly in Taiwan without exporting and then reimporting the products. Talk about a waste of money for the consumers!

That’s what I heard too. I think there is something in the contract that forbids these companies from selling directly in Taiwan without exporting and then reimporting the products. Talk about a waste of money for the consumers![/quote]

Yes it’s true. Aslo the import taxes can be as high as 28% plus 5% income taxes thrown in. This is true for the satellite receivers I import.

[quote=“Truant”]Huh?

Especially IT and electronics stuff. It really mystifies…[/quote]

And housing. What a rip off. My former apt sold for NT13 mil (US$400,000). 3 tiny bedrooms, 2 really crappy bathrooms, kitchen like a prison cell, no hot water in the kitchen, no dishwasher, no counter space, no garage, no storage space, no yard, no deck, no hottub, no view, etc. Nice for Taipei, but a piece of crap – an expensive one – by US standards.

But the answer to your question in that case is supply and demand. Too many people and not enough space in Taipei/Taiwan.

That’s what I heard too. I think there is something in the contract that forbids these companies from selling directly in Taiwan without exporting and then reimporting the products. Talk about a waste of money for the consumers![/quote]

Yes it’s true. Aslo the import taxes can be as high as 28% plus 5% income taxes thrown in. This is true for the satellite receivers I import.[/quote]
OK, well, there is a “Free trade zone” out at CKS for that purpose, so the actual costs for export/import should be minimal. And, I thought import taxes are the sort of thing in place to protect the local industry…i.e. buying a product made outside of Taiwan. What is the purpose of import tax on a product made here?

It’s strange that I can buy a certain thing for less in just about any country other than the country that is was made in :s

That’s what I heard too. I think there is something in the contract that forbids these companies from selling directly in Taiwan without exporting and then reimporting the products. Talk about a waste of money for the consumers![/quote]

Yes it’s true. Aslo the import taxes can be as high as 28% plus 5% income taxes thrown in. This is true for the satellite receivers I import.[/quote]

That should be VAT, not income tax, so this is low compared to Europe, but when you slap import duty on it prices can be really expensive.

I was pretty bummed out when I first came here. I thought electronics(among other things) would be dirt cheap. I was so wrong, and disapointed. Nice to finally have an explanation for it.

Laptops made in China are more expensive in China than almost anywhere else. When I asked I was told “import tax” - i.e. they are “finished” abroad. (Er, no they’re not, but that’s the official line…)

Personally, I believe that it is because there are ‘middle men’ involved in this situation, either private or govt, who are taking a cut.
It seems if you’ve got enough shopping to do, you might as well take a trip somewhere else to go and buy it.

The receivers we use are made in Korea. But in anycase even if they were locally made and re-imported it’s the same deal. 33% taxes.

Makes complete sense. Earn money manufacturing a product using cheap labor. When that cheap labor wants to buy a locally made product, slap on another 33% segregation tax so it’s more expensive than anywhere else in the world. :loco:

If it’s [i]real[/i] expensive, it [i]must[/i] be better.

:bow:

Yeah but this way income tax in Taiwan is low, so no complaining there … they need to get the money to build infrastructure somewhere

Well, it might be more expensive compared to the US, but we get robbed here in the UK, even compared to Europe a lot of the time. Everyrything is cheap in the US :wink:

Electronics are dirt cheap in the UK compared to Taiwan. 19" LCD screens (supposedly Taiwan’s speciality) can be picked up for around NT$7,000 including 17.5% VAT. Without the VAT that’s NT$6k. Brand new 15" LCDs can be had for NT$3,000 including VAT - try that one in Taiwan.

I see 3 factors at work here:

  1. Taiwan with its 23 million residents is a very small market compared with the rest of the world. UK consumers buy a hell of a lot more than their Taiwanese counterparts and thus the UK market as a whole gets a volume discount through lower distributor prices.

  2. Taiwan is full of very small brokerage companies each taking slices of various pies. The UK’s market for electronic consumer goods is supplied by a few very large distributors who deal in volume and work more efficiently.

  3. Tax laws provide benefits for major exporters. Exporting is good business because it brings foreign cash into Taiwan.

In the end I reckon I’m still better off in Taiwan because my everyday expenses - food, rent, bills, petrol, taxes - are much lower than in the UK so paying a little more for luxury goods is not a major problem. Plus there’s a thriving second-hand market in Taiwan with plenty of sellers, so I always buy appliances like washing machines second-hand. I bought a non-working washing machine last year for NT$800, replaced one NT$15 part and it’s been going strong since :slight_smile:

Based on my experience of being in the export manufacturing industry here, I’d say there are loads of products that are manufactured in Taiwan and sold on the local market without being exported and “re-imported” first etc. etc… I’d hazard a guess and say 99% of the “it’s expensive because it has to be exported and re-imported” stories are flat out BS, at best a part truth but mostly just an excuse to “gouge” local consumers…

To some extent the reason some manufactured items are more expensive here than overseas is that any factory manufacturing their own brand of proprietary product that are large enough to have a significant percentage of their total sales market in export sales will be up against 100’s of other factories competing for those foreign orders… If you add to that the much greater competition in foreign retail market price points, most factories have no choice but to really cut close to the bottom line on their margins for these export orders… Usually that works out okay since conveniently, there are all kinds of government incentives, tax breaks, flexible bonded warehouse regulations etc. to bolster export manufacturing, which in the bigger picture, is the only trick Taiwanese big business ever learned… These big volume, bad price, orders are the bread and butter of most manufacturing companies in that they keep the overheads down, keep the assembly lines busy and at the end of the day they are on a small margin, but a margin none the less, so they’re profitable, but only if you have the volume, and you only get the volume with low FOB prices… cue catch 22 cycle that benefits uber consumer markets like the EU/USA… They also subsidize these “volume customers” with other more lucrative “cash cow” customers from other countries where either currency, import duty, GDP, or market demographics reasons make higher price points are acceptable eg. Scandinavia etc… Unfortunately for us, Taiwan, like Scandinavia etc. is on the list of countries that are used to foot the bill for the R&D and associated costs of any given product, whereas the export price points for the EU/US “volume orders” will be based purely on cost of manufacturing per unit…

For the Taiwan domestic market, they don’t have as much retail competition and also there is an “old boys club” (for want of a better term) unwritten agreement between manufacturers that ensures that nobody quotes too low so as to bring prices down across the board locally… Also for relatively newer, or high tech items like GPS, Garmin flat out rips off Taiwanese consumers by charging premium retail prices for outdated GPS models no longer sold in the EU/US since it is a new product with a certain “novelty” value and the Taiwanese market is not as savvy regarding what they are getting for their money… They pretty much charge US retail price from 5 years ago when it was a new model x 0.95 …

Lastly some brands/products being manufactured in Taiwan, particularly high tech products are purely OEM… That is the factory manufacturing the items has no proprietary or sales rights and so the ex-works unit price that the proprietary company in the US for example pays is nowhere near what the ex-works price a Taiwanese retailer would pay, given that they are merely a sales agent like any other for the US company’s proprietary products…

[EDIT: I’ve just re-read this post and I’d like to apologise to anyone unfortunate enough to have spent their valuable time reading it… what a boring load of crap that was… sheesh… :unamused: :wink: ]

I demand a refund.

Not at all Plasma, to me that post makes the most sense in the whole thread, the OP included.