Why is 鼎泰豐 romanized as DIN Tai Feng?

As far as I know, 鼎 is pronounced as dǐng ㄉㄧㄥˇ

  1. Simple mistake in pinyin?

  2. Based on a non-pinyin romanization system?

  3. Is it 鼎’s pronunciation in a non-Mandarin language?

  4. The pronunciation of 鼎 has changed over time?

Couldn’t find anything here

https://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/dictView.jsp?ID=2271&la=0&powerMode=0

Just curious if anyone knows.

There are heaps of examples like this littering this island.

If there is a particular backstory with this case, I’m also interested to hear it. :popcorn:

Guy

Because… Taiwan?

Another example:

Cheng Hsin General Hospital, 振興醫院, a prominent hospital in Taipei (Tianmu)

Should be Zhen Xing or Chen Hsing.

the actual business name in the simil-pinyin they use is Din Tai Fung, so even weirder as they seem to be using the cantonese pronunciation instead.

Like a lot of names, its translated on sounds, trying to make it easier for non local. You listed " as dǐng" , I tried use translate DING come out some other word and speak dǐng as in Ding Dong, I do think DIN is closer to the sound.

What bothers me more why westerners call the the supermarket PX when it has a real Taiwanese name ? As Japanese I always think PX, is the American hypermart on the base? (Most Taiwanese do not know it’s PX mart haha)

Yeah, same kind of thing, so I guess it’s just the usual non-standard use/mixture of romanization systems. It doesn’t really matter, of course, I was just a bit curious.

It should be romanized as Tíng-thài-hong

Speaking of the Restaurant Chain … they had several in Australia, but i notice that they have been rebranded over the past few years. Seems the franchise holder had been forcing staff to repay some wages (they got the award wage, but some was clawed back). The franchise owner was heavily fined - similar happened with 7-11 a couple of years before.

Not the brands fault in either case, just a greedy franchise owner who had decided he wanted a greater profit margin. There are probably others, but sadly it needs workers to speak out, probably get sacked for doing so, and have to wait for the court to order the differences repaid.

I just saw one the other day, an ad for Maokong that says 走靜貓空. It’s supposed to be a play on words: 靜 and 進. But actually these two characters have different pronunciations: jing and jin. Pity that these sounds can’t be distinguished in the Taiwanese ear.

Most Taiwanese people can distinguish -in and -iŋ just fine. The literary reading of 靜 tsing and 進 tsin sound different in Taigi.

It’s those Zhejiang refugees who got teaching jobs in schools teaching Taiwanese to speak “Mandarin”, with the only qualification being they were from CKS’ home province, who couldn’t tell the difference.

The most spoken language in Zhejiang is Ningpo. Let’s see…

恩 en → -ŋ. 溫 wen → -ŋ. 軍 jun → -ŋ. 雲 yun → -ŋ. 春 cun → -ŋ

Who couldn’t distinguished these sounds? Not the Taiwanese people for sure.

when listening to some of his speeches, I did more than a few times asked myself “is this Mandarin Chinese?”. Same with Mao tbh

Time coded to CKS saying 國民 min 革命 ming 軍 jun 陸海空軍 jun 今 jin 天… 慶 qing 祝我們 men. Do you think he could tell the difference between -in and -ing?