Wild boars in Taiwan: are they protected?

typical left wing, PC, commie, pinko, liberal arts educated thinking. :stuck_out_tongue: :neutral::smiley:

Although no abos (err aborigines) are on this forum except for sat tV and im surprised he hasnt chimed in yet. At least bout giving TW id to the imported southeast asian clouded leopards? :smiley:

pfft, you’re just a typical soft Englishman. This is what they use in NZ:

I notice the term ‘abo’ is thrown around quite ignorantly or innocently by American friends, even lefty-pinko, do-gooder, liberal democrat ones, but to Aussies it really grates. If I called my Amis wife an abo, I’m sure she’d slap me in the face and she ain’t even Australian.

Using the term ‘abo’ is an effect of your dumb, innocent Americaness, but saying ‘indigenous people of Taiwan have no special rights, they are ROC citizens’ is due to your Chineseness. Maybe you’d prefer to be ruled by the PRC, who state:

See the denial? There are no Uyghurs, Tibetans, Amis, Atayal, etc. Everyone in China is Han Chinese.

When the PRC get Taiwan, you will have your way Tommy. No one will have special rights, even you.

By the way, the aboriginal Australians in my area referred to the Chinese as ‘long pig’ coz they reckon they tasted much better than whitefellas due to the fact they were grain-fed, so you should be happy Taiwan aborigines prefer the meat of those pesky little boars, which by the way, are often kept and bred in captivity.

They need a new word. Aborigine is too long winded. Lets call em AB for our purposes then. And eventually in a brave new world we will be eating humans because we will have depleted all other large animals cept for maybe cats and dogs.

TAiwanese green indians (Taiwanese used to refer to their ABs as green indians and American Indians as red indians) should have no special rights and neither should the American indians. They are often fat cats now because of gaming rights . Taiwanese indians dont have gaming rights but they shouldnt be allowed to hunt indescriminatingly.

Stop all hunting. We cant afford hunting anymore. Im not convinced the hills are full of wild boar. If they truly are, then maybe special culling teams can be sent in to control the population, but Im not convinced they are all over the place to warrant that action. Somebody give me hard facts !

You got nice abs.

Come on, tommy, it’s just a couple, or a thousand wild pigs. Fei shu are just flying rats. It’s a bit hypocritical to eat factory farmed chickens and feedlot raised cattle and try to deny indigenous people the right to hunt and butcher their own meat. Neither the boar or the flying rat are endangered. They both breed like rabbits.

I dont agree AB need special rights. They should be treated as equals. Equality works both ways.

They should not be singled out for discrimination and neither for special privileges.

certain cultural practices need to be preserved or we risk losing the whole culture. However, extending the right to practice hunting, for example, to non-culture members risks dramatic overhunting due to the overwhelming numbers of non-Aboriginal people in Taiwan today, so there is also a need to keep hunting restricted to those who traditionally did it. However, i would suggest that they also be encouraged to only go hunting using their traditional weapons: bows or spears. MInd you, fortigurn will be along soon to tell me that rifles have as much of a place in their culture as bow and arrows do.

Same goes for whaling: allow traditional hunters to hunt whales, but only in their original fur and bamboo boats and wielding traditional harpoons, rather than steel ships using explosive headed missiles in the Antarctic ten thousand miles from their traditional hunting grounds.

some species can not afford to be hunted by anyone, some aspects of lost cultures should remain “lost”

https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20240505000660-260402

SUMMARY

In Miaoli County, Taiwan, a retired police officer surnamed Lai, who proclaims himself a “pest hunter,” claimed to help farmers by removing hazardous wild boars and set up traps across various private lands. This has led to accusations of trespassing and setting traps illegally, which unfortunately resulted in harm to local wildlife, including incidents where dogs and other animals were maimed or even killed due to these traps.

The connection between 3-legged dogs and wild boar hunting in this context arises from the indiscriminate nature of the traps set by Lai. These traps, intended to catch wild boars that pose threats to local agriculture, have instead caught dogs, leading to severe injuries such as limb amputation. The traps are not specific enough to solely capture wild boars and therefore can harm any animal that triggers them. As a result, many local dogs have been found with injuries severe enough to cause the loss of one or more limbs, becoming 3-legged or even worse.

This situation highlights a critical issue with the use of such traps: while intended to protect crops from wild boars, they can inadvertently and severely harm other animals, demonstrating the need for more targeted and humane wildlife management practices.

Mr. Lai was somewhat effective in capturing and killing a large number of wild boars, reportedly up to a hundred annually. He justified his actions by citing Article 21 of the Wildlife Conservation Act, which allows for the hunting or killing of wildlife that threatens crops, livestock, or aquaculture. His primary motivation was to alleviate the damage that wild boars cause to local agriculture, such as consuming significant amounts of crops like oranges.

However, his approach has been controversial and has led to several problems. (1) Firstly, the traps he used were non-selective and caused injuries to other wildlife and domestic animals, such as dogs, leading to severe injuries or death. This has raised ethical and legal concerns regarding animal welfare and the appropriateness of his methods.

(2) Moreover, the legality of his actions has been questioned. His use of traps and the sale of wild boar meat without proper permits or adherence to regulations led to investigations and criticisms from the local community and authorities. He also faced accusations of trespassing on private properties to set his traps.

In summary, while Mr. Lai might have been effective in reducing the number of wild boars, the methods he employed were harmful and controversial, causing collateral damage to other animals and raising significant legal and ethical issues. This indicates a need for more regulated, humane, and focused approaches to wildlife management and pest control.

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Mmmm wild boar . :drooling_face:

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I don’t understand why the article needs to use so many words to explain what he was doing was completely illegal and unethical.

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I ate wild boar a few months ago I could barely finish it it was so gamey.:slightly_smiling_face:. If anybody is familiar with boar taint just imagine that but 5x.

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So only aboriginals are allowed to hunt at all, rest of the Hans are not allowed this at all?

If say a Taiwanese is growing something in Miaoli or whatever and boars keep trampling their land and eating their crop, they are not allowed to kill them? What’s the actual rule?

In Texas you could basically kill them with whatever means you got at your disposal. Mow them down with your pickup truck, shoot them full of holes with an AR15, even off a helicopter if you wanted to. Guys would be glad that you did because those feral boars are not only a pest, but they’re dangerous as hell too. (Essentially any rules/regulations about shooting animals off a moving vehicle does not apply when it comes to feral hogs, they’re that bad. Google “feral hog tannerite” if you want to watch some really redneck stuff).

But because Taiwanese aren’t allowed to have guns in general, the only way to kill them effectively is with traps, which as you know is unethical as hell and can end up catching other animals that it isn’t meant to catch. You seriously do not want to go up to a boar. The only weapon we can have in Taiwan that would hurt them is a compound bow. But you miss, you’re going to probably get gored to death by the boar.

I do not know if farmers can get special permits to have firearms for land control, but this should be allowed.

You need the lady boars :wink:

Gamey for sure, but that’s what I love. A good chew.

Pretty obvious he was selling them, not protecting oranges :joy: if oranges, and tree fruit in general, were the protected crops, he should be killing monkeys. Pigs dig and eat dirt stuff, especially roots and low stuff.

I’d prefer if Taiwanese people aren’t flying around in helicopters shooting at stuff with automatic weapons and exploding them with Tannerite, thanks. Let’s wait until they’ve mastered driving safely on roads first.

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Long wait

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It sounds like ChatGPT. :thinking:

Guy

How did you eat it?

I find it best if you make it into something like a ragu. It’s a common dish in Tuscany.

I often drive at night and see a family of them running around.

I stayed in a B&B in the mountains and the owner proudly shared the wild boar that they had been gifted with us . She just cooked it Chinese wok style with onions and chili.
I’m sure it was an adult male and honestly I could barely finish it . After that I was give me the domestic fake wild boar at the night market anytime lol.
I guess if she marinated it some how it would have helped right. In general Taiwanese are quite good at dealing with pork by marinating it first.

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