For the unitiated, Tantra is an ancient daoist belief that links sex with health and longevity. Cutting to the short strokes, a man retains his ejaculatory orgasm whilst the woman must release as much and as often as possible. There is plenty of stuff available on the hinternet for those interested in knowing more.
Being recently singled, I am out in the nasty world of casual sex and, as all acoounts would have it, am quickly approaching Wilt the Stilt-esque figures. So I am getting lots of practice in satisfaction.
So my impetus for this thread here is two fold.
How do you men and women feel about this retention/release appraoch to sex? Men, generally speaking, tend to lean towards the old joke about how long it takes a woman to climax (“Who cares?” being the number 1 answer) while woman, I suspect, feel a sort of “mission(ary) unaccomplished” if such a circumstance erm…arises…
Have you tried the Pi ratio of 3.141592654, or maybe try to work the Fibonacci sequence somehow into your tantra session? Sex is really all about numbers and getting them down right.
I don’t think using irrational numbers are a good approach sex. Fractals on the other hand are much more visually pleasing. I would also recommend introduction to Chaos Theory to explain away those instances, which don’t result in female orgasm.
Every year when I see the sea of New York City Marathon runners flow across the Verrazano Bridge I think about Wilt Chamberlin, although in some years, Wilt’s conquests outnumber the field.
I am aiming for 10:1.[/quote]
How is this even possible? And what constitutes a session by your definition? Ten rounds in one session…that sounds painful. Is there rest time involved? Nap breaks?
If you’re talking woman 10:man 1, then pm me for my number!
I’d wanted to try this before with my favorite boyfriend, but he was absolutly against it. He needed the release. Anyway, he was always good for at least three with very little down time. I wasn’t about to complain.
Well, you may be right and I may be crazy, but I may be just the lunatic you’re looking for. I truthfully don’t know the etymology of the practice. I am basing my knowledge on this:
I believe you can see the word Tao clearly designated in the title. Forgive my ignorance as to the history.
Should we pat you on the back, or should we pat you on the back? [/quote]
Well, light to moderately heavy pats on the erm…back can help achieve the results I am outlining, dependant on the partner of course. Then again, Mia, the 16 year old daughter of Hank Moody’s nemesis (Showtime’s Californication) takes this to a whole new level.
Sorry to hear that. I liked her.[/quote]
Thanks 914. She is a cool lady. Just one of those things. No one to blame. We are still best of friends. She is gallavanting around the world in search of herself, so all the power to her.
[quote=“914”]…What’s your ratio of orgasm per session?
How is this even possible? And what constitutes a session by your definition? Ten rounds in one session…that sounds painful. Is there rest time involved? Nap breaks?[/quote]
It is entirely possible, sweet 914. And actually quite smple to achieve. I’ve discovered that the female need trust the male beyond the level needed for simple erm…bedding. She must be able to show her “O Face”, in fact crave it, demand it. The true “O” face is rara avis en terra. Also she must accept that a non-ejaculatory orgasm on her partner’s part can be just as pleasurable for him and that non-ejaculation is not a sign of failure. If she can open her spirit up to the possibility, then it is a very easy ratio to achieve. In fact, it takes very little time as well. And there is no pain (unless…erm…you know ). As for naps, yes. After 10 orgasms, the female rolls over and passes out. How about them apples, Eve? I kinda like that aspect of it almost as much. I can go watch the ball game guilt free…hehehe…
[quote=“housecat”][quote=“Toe Save”].
I am aiming for 10:1.[/quote]
If you’re talking woman 10:man 1, then pm me for my number!
I’d wanted to try this before with my favorite boyfriend, but he was absolutly against it. He needed the release. Anyway, he was always good for at least three with very little down time. I wasn’t about to complain.[/quote]
Haha. Sorry Charlie. Since posting my OP, I’ve met someone who could be the one to forsake all others for. So I am living as if I will. It is a complicated situation, but I am confident Ol’ Toe’s charms will prevail. Thanks for the offer however. If timing were different, you’d have had that PM already. I understand the male reticence to attempt such feats. What’s that hackneyed dressing room joke about how long it takes a woman to orgasm? Might I suggest buying a copy of the book I imaged above and leave it lying around your boudoir? I guarantee any man will be interested in the fact that you are interested in your (und ultimately, his) sexuality. Discuss it. Try it. It does take incredible will power for a man to get to the brink and pull himself back. But the tantric orgasm lies in that very act of pulling oneself back from said brink. It may not be as powerful as the orgasm de riguer, but it can last a lot longer and in so doing, will keep the man more alert and attentive (iykwim), thereby allowing him many more tantric Os. And when he finally releases…well…battlestations everyone…this is not a drill. The longer one can delay the ejaculation, the more likely one is to blow the roof of the place. True practioners can (it is said) have “sessions” that last erm…upwards of 36 hours.
Should I start a workshop? A special Tantric Happy Hour?
I guess my point is that “Tantra” is not really a catch-all word for all sexual healing practices, although it often seems to be used that way in Western culture. I’m no linguist, but even I can tell that “Tantra” is not a word with Chinese roots, since “tra” is not a chinese syllable in common use, so it’d be hard to call Tantra an ancient daoist belief.
And in this cover:
I don’t see the word “Tantra” anywhere.
There are some important differences. The most important that I know of is,
in Tantra, the benefits to health come from the man avoiding ejaculation for as long as possible.
in Taoist sexual therapy, the woman is supposed to gain health benefits from the man ejaculating inside her, and there’s even an episode in The Carnal Prayer Mat, a chinese novel, where a prostitute revitalizes elderly clients by allowing them to … uh … ok, well, read it yourself.
[quote=“lurkky”]I guess my point is that “Tantra” is not really a catch-all word for all sexual healing practices, although it often seems to be used that way in Western culture. I’m no linguist, but even I can tell that “Tantra” is not a word with Chinese roots, since “tra” is not a Chinese syllable in common use, so it’d be hard to call Tantra an ancient daoist belief.
And in this cover:
I don’t see the word “Tantra” anywhere.
There are some important differences. The most important that I know of is,
in Tantra, the benefits to health come from the man avoiding ejaculation for as long as possible.
in Taoist sexual therapy, the woman is supposed to gain health benefits from the man ejaculating inside her, and there’s even an episode in The Carnal Prayer Mat, a Chinese novel, where a prostitute revitalizes elderly clients by allowing them to … uh … ok, well, read it yourself.[/quote]
Fair enough. But while we are onto definitions, would this debate be a definition of semantics? According to the book, man retains and woman releases. Whether that be tantra or not, that is what I am posting about. If there is another name for it, I’ll gladly reword the title of the thread.
[quote=“Toe Save”] And when he finally releases…well…battlestations everyone…this is not a drill. The longer one can delay the ejaculation, the more likely one is to blow the roof of the place. True practioners can (it is said) have “sessions” that last erm…upwards of 36 hours.
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Holy Moley! As the woman, I’d already have taken your wallet and maxed out all your credit, redecorated your house, and sold the video of your 36 hour gasm to whatever kind of porn organization pays for that kind of thing!
But you know I’d come crawling back for the ratio, babe!
Thanks for starting this thread. If the Dating and Relationship forum was missing one thing, it was foreign guys bragging about their prowess with the local ladies. There was a real lack of that. So thanks again for your post.
ay there is some condusino and its not semantics based
infact, tantra and taoist techniques are actually quite different
In true daoist parctise the man will use different techniques to achieve the many little O’s and the theory is that he gradually levels up without an ejaculation (but still having a minor orgasm) himself, the point behind it is that he gains ying from the lady whilst not outputting yang --> healing benefits
fyi the techniques are thrust rates/depths/breathing… and ratios of them (normally counted in block of 5) whilst near-ejjaculation is prevent by squeezing pelvic floor musulces (those used to stop a pee midway when the blue light flashes behind you)
tantra on the other hand is close to daoist but is more based on yogic breathing and meditation rather than toaist meditation, therefore in tantra static movement, and touch is more important in gaining the o than the thrusting and movement
anyways… try combos, but the important thing to th OP is that in both guides a ratio is not the final aim… delay until you feel the O build and then release - that is what you want after all, is the final explosive muuuurrrrghghghghghghghg of both orgasming together
otherwize youre just asking for and recieving you strange pleasure from the woman attaining this state, and not are indirectly critisiing yourself since you say a girl has to learn to leat go and show her true O-face, and at the same time, thats what you are looking for, is the total spiritual release and amalgamation of the two souls therefore, if the act itself is not want you want and just 10:1 ratio then just rub her clit until you have 9 and then stick it in and go for the final
). As for naps, yes. After 10 orgasms, the female rolls over and passes out. How about them apples, Eve? I kinda like that aspect of it almost as much. I can go watch the ball game guilt free…hehehe…
According to the book, man retains and woman releases. Whether that be tantra or not, that is what I am posting about. If there is another name for it, I’ll gladly reword the title of the thread.