Man forcibly thrown off United Flight (with Video)

Pathetic and ridiculous as it could be. Should stop their services if they cannot value their customers.

EVERYONE is Chinese when they’re famous or wronged. One drop of blood and all that. Unless they’re in trouble, then they’re not.

Thailand claimed Tiger Woods as their own a number of years ago. (I forget if they gave him a passport or just some fancy certificate.)

Apparently Dr. Dao considers himself Chinese.

Although the available information doesn’t seem conclusive, I assume that Dr. Dao is a Vietnamese huaqiao. No self-respecting Vietnamese would ever call himself Chinese, or vice versa. The two peoples hate each other with a passion.

The point isn’t really what he himself considers himself to be. It’s what the Chinese consider him to be when they are ranting on WeChat about how a Chinese was mistreated. Same as when they decide that a Nobel prize winner who was born in China (or Taiwan, for that matter) but educated and spent all his adult life in the US is Chinese.

Dang, Delta is now offering up to 9950 USD to give up a flight. For that much and a hotel, I’d do it in less than a heartbeat.

They can not arrest me for any criminal offence. There is no criminal offence by telling someone that you can’t drag an unconscious person like that. Correct way see below.

Yes, they can drag me into court and sue my empty pants. I’ve got nothing to lose, except my dignity.

While they keep this in court, they’ll lose their reputation and more money than I would ever dream of making.

Are you really that naive? Examples of rogue cops are legion.

Here is just one:

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Yes, it happens, I mentioned that in these kinds of cases it will be absolutely obvious that you have the right to dissent. But it is not so legion that everyone will have this experience in their whole lifetime. And it certainly doesn’t mean you can disobey a reasonable request because a cop can’t make you do an unreasonable request, or because a very few unscrupulous cops have made unreasonable requests in the past.

And of course this has nothing at all to do with this case. The authorities were only backing up the request of staff. If you think it were a matter of racism, it would be the company’s racism. The company’s discrimination will be more based on who is a frequent flyer or first-class seats, they probably wouldn’t choose those people. Whether it’s right or not is another matter, it isn’t about the police.

this dude was already talking about lawyers and stuff. he might have been a kook but he was also a pro! squealing and running back on the plane like an escaped mental patient made this story a big deal. he did what he had to do and now he is gonna be rich!

Renner and Ryron Gracie with some BJJ/Judo tips for how to defend yourself from being dragged away:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq3OjQexeUA

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Listen I’m tired of arguing with you since you are set on your views and I can say with confidence that many would strongly disagree with you. I can see you are taking a firm stance in trying to win this argument with your long posts and you aren’t willing to budge your point of view. But again. I do feel you are wrong here. Do the officers have a reasonable request telling you to get off a plane that you paid for and did not cause any issue? I don’t think that’s reasonable like I don’t think it’s reasonable to let the police search my car or house without a cause or warrant. You may be the kind of person that thinks it’s not a big deal, but me and many others here would likely protest the idea of letting an officer do something like searching your house without a warrant.

I suspect he may have planned to refuse, get roughed up, and collect. After all he is a poker professional so he understands calculated risks.

That said he deserves every penny for them doing such a stupid thing.

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Do the officers have a reasonable request telling you to get off a plane that you paid for and did not cause any issue? [/quote]
First of all, if it is unreasonable, I would take it out with the airline, never with the police.
Even so, the ticket is still good, the airplane will still make good on the ticket, just the terms of the contract are changed. I think in any other country, the police would do that same thing, even Taiwanese police. This particular issue wouldn’t make me angry, but other issues would, but I know the difference between getting upset at a business and disobeying the police. I would cooperate with Taiwanese police. And most people would, because no one is making racism a factor, like in the USA.

I don’t think that’s reasonable like I don’t think it’s reasonable to let the police search my car or house without a cause or warrant. You may be the kind of person that thinks it’s not a big deal, but me and many others here would likely protest the idea of letting an officer do something like searching your house without a warrant.

That’s a whole different ballgame. Yes, there are laws against searching your house (not sure about car if you’ve been caught disobeying the law), and police know that and what their limitations are.

They often do and hope you don’t. I’ve had police ask to search my car multiple times being pulled over. Some I admit I was speeding but half the time I was pulled over and not given a real reason. And honestly with some of the hick states I’ve lived in, I’m fairly certain they just pulled me over because I was Asian, young and drove a car that equals years of their salary. I was often questioned like a criminal even with proof that it was my car.
I even had the police question me when I moved out of my house in Texas. They refused to believe me when I was packing stuff that it was my house and was close to arresting me when I asked them to get off of my property. They thought I was breaking into it and acted really aggressively to where they put their hand on th gun showing me clearly in a sign to put fear into me. Again, probably because these hick cops can’t believe Asian Americans can live in such a nice house. So my personal experiences with the police have made me pretty untrusting of them.

Police will see your license and know how many offenses you’ve had in the past. I never had a record, police stopped me maybe 3 times in college, and 3 times in my 30s, and each time I was very cooperative, never given a ticket or a warning. And my speeding wasn’t wild either, maybe 10 miles per hour max in the middle of night with no other cars on the road.

Well, this is anecdotal, and perhaps I could surmise that when cops approach, you have “be careful, I know my rights” written all over your face. It’s usually best to be humble, act as if they were absolutely right to stop you, and very very explanatory to police, and you see how quickly they relax.

Even if everything is true what you say, you are still mistaken to carry that over into this case. This absolutely isn’t the same thing. If a white person had refused police, they would be in the same situation, they would have to escort you out. I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened to me at all, which is why I would never act like that.

And I would want cops to have the authority to deal with uncooperative people, because some situations could be particularly dangerous, even if this one wasn’t.

Oh this is the reason I was harassed and just short of being threatened to be shot on my own property? Because I have a I know my rights kind of look? Is this the same as the girl that ask to be raped when her short skirt says “I’m a slut”? Or the black guy that looks like a a thug asking to be shot?

No, I won’t argue about that, you’re probably right. :slight_smile:

Sorry about going off topic like this, but with all this talk of police brutality and stuff, I think we all need some 90’s tunes to help us chill out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nsu57_layY

Use of terms like “request”, “re-accommodate” and “overbooking” to describe what United did remind me of a headline in the Washington Post a few weeks back: “NSA Withdraws Request Ordering Twitter to Identify Trump Critic”