Meanwhile in Hong Kong

Police entering the shopping mall is highly questionable and unprofessional.

I don’t think the HKSAR government is at its all time high in governance at the moment.

With LEGCO the beacon of rule of law in Hk vandalised, the psyche of Hkers is evolving.

https://criticalspectator.com/china/hong-kongs-suicide
" Hong Kong’s Suicide – The beginning of the end."

My observation is the end started in 2012. It’s been all downhill since then. The experiment lasted 15 years only.

China created this monster. China is easily capable of swallowing this monster whole. But can China digest it?

I hate that «it was invite» concept. Hong Kong was given no choice. Why is it that to be Chinese means being under the CCP boot? Now they have the balls to stand up and fight and people say it’s useless because their destiny is to be part of China? Gimme a break.

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Fight for what? HK would not last a day without China, no water, no food, no electricity, no economy. They have to sort out things somehow with China. Come to some kind of arrangement.

Land grab by CCP isn’t just happening in HKSAR but globally. Canada, Australia, USA and African countries are examples. South America better watch out!

Likely some brownouts, but not the end of the world.

It’s an ethnicity issue for the CCP. The rest of the planet has evolved into citizenship and nationality.

The psyche of CCP is another interesting topic to discuss. The contradictions are countless between the dignity of China’s history and humiliation by the west.

Oh the arrangment was made in 1997 but that has not been respected. Why would China respect any deal if it has as you say the power of life and death?

Why should one live on one´s knees, especially people in Hong Kong who worked hard and made a good place for themselves? Like Taiwan, they have been pased on between powers as a colony, but thsi is not the 18th centure anymore. No more colonies.

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Yep, but we must battle this. There is already a growing trend among teh diaspora to disengage themselves from China. It should be teh motto of news articles and shape the discourse: being Chinese does not mean obeying the CCP blindly. China is more than the CCP, and as teh dynasties fell, as teh KMT fell, so wioll teh CCP fall and China will go on. Losing the CCP will not mean China will perish or be overrun by foreign powers. their irrelevancy is what the CCP fears teh most and that is why they cling to power desperately.

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Other figures quote 90% of fresh vegetables come from China, as well as 70% of fresh water.
“Today, about 70-80 per cent of water comes from Dongjiang by arrangement with the Guangdong authorities.”
https://www.wsd.gov.hk/en/publications-and-statistics/pr-publications/the-facts/

So, hongkong already pays for those things, they are not given for free as gifts from China(or chinese companies to be more precise)

But anyway, you make it sound easy to standup to china. One just needs to secure alternative sources for food, water and electricity.

The economy for the average hongkonger would do just fine without the cockroaches.

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Hk taxpayers are paying by estimate HKD60-70 million for vandalism in LEGCO caused by hkgov’s incompetence and unprofessionalism.

It was a public relation swing of opinion but failed miserably!

China is not CCP!
CCP is not China!

But the apparatchiks of Zhongnanhai haven’t figured that one out yet.

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It’s a shame they don’t have a seaport or something.

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@schwarzwald makes it sound like HK distancing itself from China is merely a logistical problem, securing alternative sources for water and veggies.

On the contrary, I was trying to point out that realistically HK cannot distance itself from China.

Why? Why cannot they import the water and veggies from somewhere else ?