Those gals are keeping a very low profile.
In case you have any brothels staffed with teenage girls, you need to get investigated, feel free to post the details here - those old vixens usually manning the beds are driving me crazy
Those gals are keeping a very low profile.
In case you have any brothels staffed with teenage girls, you need to get investigated, feel free to post the details here - those old vixens usually manning the beds are driving me crazy
I grew up in Shi men ding. One of my first memories of brothels was almost being dragged into one when I was only 12⌠12!! Were they trying to condition me from a young age so that I could become a regular when my pubic hair was fully grown? What theâŚ
Also walking down the movie street (forget what itâs called, but also in shi men ding), I could see lots of âhotâ chicks with little clothes on them, sitting outside of seemingly âbarber shopsâ, eyeing Asian and Western men alike. They werenât as aggressive though. But that was back in 1980s. I went back again in 1992 and it was all changed. Come to think of it, I âkind ofâ miss the old shi men ding ⌠It was a different crowd back then (comparable to todayâs Dongchu).
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When I lived in the Ming Chuan E. Road area , I would have to say 20 or more. And on Mingshen E. Road, Changâan East Road, as well as some of the crossroads in that area, there are a lot.
Right. So you believe that all aborigine girls are prostitutes. Thatâs what the figures say. Fair enough. As you say, you can believe what you want.
Brian
I wonder if most foreigners in Taiwan would even realise where about 90% of the brothels are. For example, there is a brothel in the basement of the apartment building of one of my friends. There is no sign, red light, barberâs pole or anything else indicating that it is a brothel. If you just walked past you would never know itâs there.
Still I think the statistics EOD is quoting are incorrect. There is a large sex industry in Taiwan and I am sure there is child prostitution associated with it, but as for the exact numbers I donât know.
Did you read anything I wrote in the previous post?
Was that addressed to me? You said in the previous post that you stand by the figures. the figures say that there are 100 000 child prostitutes in Taiwan, 20% of whom are aborigines. So logically, either all aborigine girls are prostitutes, or the aborigine population is many many times higher than the Government says. So, seeing as you stand by the figures, I want to know which one you believe. Thatâs pretty simple.
Brian
I believe there are at least 100,000 children being forced into prostitution in Taiwan and at least 20% of these children are of aboriginal decent.
I also beleive that the Chinese goverment on Taiwan is fully aware of this and condones it.
So which is it:
OR
Brian
Well, Taiwan has changed a lot since then. Huaxi Jie is a regular tourist trap now. Apart from the odd very low-profile KTC joint, the sex industry seems to have dissapeared from the area. (You can still get porn VCDs )[/quote]
A few years back, there was a big hoopla because then-Taipei Major Chen decided to get rid of legalized prostitution which was only legal in the alleys around Hua Xi Jie. A large part of Chenâs political base is women so this was a popular move for him, though largely symbolic.
I have a hard time believing there were child prostitutes at Hua Xi Jie, because in all the news coverage at the time, they talked about how those legalized brothels were primarily frequented by older, blue collar men. While the women protesting Chenâs move wore masks, it was obvious they were 40-60 year old prostitutes. I think child prostitutes would probably be elsewhere.
Interesting point is that a number of the womenâs organizations included in EODâs links support legalization or decriminalization of prostitution. Adult prostitution, not child prostitution. Of course they are against child prostitution. Whatever the right number is, 100,000 or only 100, itâs still totally morally bankrupt to involve kids in this industry. The police should put out the word that they will prosecute child prostitution, even if they are willing to turn the other eye on adult prostitution.
If you had lived in Taiwan and actually gone there youâd be singing a different tune. Weâre talking about 2 different times, the 1980âs and the mid-1990âs. After Lee Deng-hwei became President and they turned the night market into a tourist attraction things changed.
In the 1980âs the local papers had plenty of stories of young aborigine girls being held for weeks in brothels while they were pumped full of hormones in order to develop their breasts. Afterwards they were offered at extremely high prices as virgins. Having been used, the price dropped to about $300NT for 15 minutes (for Chinese customers). Japanese and Western customers paid about $1,000NT. I went threough there many times and saw lots of girls who couldnât have been older than 13 or 14 years old. The average age seemed to be 16 to 17.
For all of Taiwanâs progress, they have only managed to force child prostitution underground in most of Taipei. The sort of thing seen in Huaxi Jie back in the 80âs is still wide spread in every major city in Taiwan. Too much pressure in one area they just move to another. The local governments and law enforcement agencies roll out the welcome wagon because of all the graft and payoffs associated with it.
I missed this one. This is great. You can make up any number you want, and as long as it says something bad about Taiwan EOD says itâs true. EOD, I think 100,000 is too low. In fact, itâs way too low. I think the real number must be something like a quarter million. Letâs use that number from now on, and you can quote me on that. hahahahahahahâŚ
Wrong. EOD is guilty of understating th true extent of the problem.
There is at least 2,000,000 child prostitutes on this island, all of aboriginal descent.
The great thing about all this is that the veil is removed. The real message here is that âEâ and his buddies; they all know what Taiwan is âreallyâ like. You and I are just pretenders (small âpâ, so we donât get confused with the pop band). The fact that their numbers donât make any sense, that lots of us speak perfectly adequate Chinese, that lots of us donât live in Taipei, and so on and so on and so on, doesnât make any difference to them. They know. This is Vintage Taiwan at its best; make the place into some sort of demonic preserve of pagan, child molesting, primitives. Iâm glad to see that at least some people have enough brains to make it through their nonsense.
Well, there is prostitution here, but no, if there were a substantial number of child prostitutes, people in general would know about it.
That said, I will claim that there are not 2,000,000 child prostitutes, there are at least 20,000,000 and they are all of the bunun tribe.
Now weâre getting somehwhere; every woman in Taiwan is a prostitute and most of the men!
Mine was a conservative estimate.
Let the crazy guys have fun at tealit, where they will find lots of company.
Is Aristotle EOD?
cwa.tnet.co.th/Magazine%20th ⌠sector.htm
catwinternational.org/fb/Taiwan.html
omf.org.uk/content.asp?id=8416
nativenet.uthscsa.edu/archive/nl/9308/0139.html
catholic.org.tw/vntaiwan/writing/vnbride.htm
etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/ ⌠009377.htm
taipeitimes.com/News/edit/ar ⌠/30/166144
Hay, âEâ you donât seem to be getting the point. Thereâs all kinds of prostitution in Taiwan, just like all those other places where premarital s** isnât accepted. Got it? Thereâs no doubting that thereâs prostitution here, and that thereâs lots of it, and that some of itâs underage girls, and that loads of them are aboriginal girls. No doubt about any of this. Got it? What weâre saying is that youâre making up the numbers. That the numbers canât be real, and I donât care who you got them from.
What weâre saying is this number, 100,000, has some problems. Youâre telling us that all aboriginal women are prosititutes? I used to hear that about Thai women too, so it makes me wonder what it is about those brown-skinned girls that everyone says theyâre all prostitutes. Or is it that the ROC government is wrong and that they are loads more aborignals hiding up in the hills than they know? What is it? Itâs one of the two. Which one do you think it is?
Or is it just a made up number? Come on. You can let us know. Weâre youâre friends.
Fourth option; maybe the math is too hard for you to do. Itâs not rocket science, but I read that these days, American schools are weak in math.
Oh, one more thing; you might not have noticed, but even your number of 100,000 is 15 years out of date.