2020 USA Presidential Election (Alleged) Vote Fraud

Freedom of speech.

Example, we probably have a more accurate Climate Change Model and less university funding grants corruption thanks to the incessant climate change deniers who keep pestering the system. There’s a silver lining I think. Also it’s probably a good idea to check birth certificates anyways. And yes racism is everywhere and rampant, but sometimes you get a jussie smollet situation and that sucks too. And for election fraud claims, hey maybe it would be good to double check because you never know unless you check. And in this particular election, there were so many extenuating circumstances it’s probably worth it.

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Nobody is saying RW deniers aren’t free to say what they want. The point is they have lost credibility. So there is no REASON to listen to their continued pattern of election fraud lies.

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Of course:

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Jesus buddy, you really pull out the BS for every occasion. Have you thought about renaming yourself to “cherrypick”?

Jacobin is a very, very far-left publication.

If you look for material hard enough to feel validated in holding a fringe opinion in 2021, you will most likely be able to find it

Yes it is BS. ‘Gods and shrines’ for a sock puppet.
Fringe opinion. Majestic. Better than being a corporatist war maniac.

Dominion Voting Systems sues Rudy Giuliani over false election claims, seeks $1.3 billion

Dominion is seeking more than $1.3 billion in damages in a jury trial, according to the complaint, which was first reported by The New York Times.

Dominion said Giuliani and his allies created and spread what it called the “big lie,” which “deceived millions into believing that Dominion had stolen their votes and fixed the election.”

The suit says Giuliani, in addition to demanding a reported $20,000 a day to represent Trump, “cashed in” on the conspiracy theory by hosting a podcast on which he advertised supplements, gold coins, cigars and protection from “cyberthieves.”

Rudy has a lot of explaining to do.

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You can really discern a lot about how someone or some group views their audience by the products they advertise on breaks. It helped convince me to quit conservative talk radio when I was growing up. Endless ads for gold/silver purchases, ED/low T treatment, fearmongering data protection services, and dubious supplements. InfoWars is even worse.

One of the easiest and most effective ways to ascertain if a program/thought leader is trying to dupe you is just looking into the credibility of what they are trying to hawk in their ads. Like attracts like.

Of course Rudy and the people that host him peddle bullshit when they are off-air. They already have an audience that is highly susceptible to grift…why not share the love a little.

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This thread has gone eerily silent since the filing of the Dominion suit. Maybe the facts are getting in the way.

“These lies have had an incalculable amount of damage on Dominion and our country,” Dominion legal counsel Thomas Clare said in the statement. “We will hold him [Giuliani], and the many that have abetted him, accountable for their profiteering lies.”

On a call earlier this month, Clare said the goal is to take these cases out of the realm of the media and to trial. “The best way to vindicate the truth is in the courts where there’s cross-examination where we have the opportunity to take discovery, where there are rules, where evidence is required to be submitted. And that is the process that we are very much looking forward to in order to vindicate the company and to get the truth out there.”

A grift of the gullible. It would seem that the weakening of US democratic institutions is just a cost of doing business.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/26/dominion-voting-systems-rudy-giuliani-legal-action-foreman-dnt-ac360-vpx.cnn

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More lawsuits. More discovery? What a joke you’ve become Giuliani.

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It’s called covering their behinds. Legally, does this help? My totally uneducated guess is that it does help. Giuliani and Sidney are you paying attention? Sure they are. But they are so deep in their lies that there is no honorable way out. It’s slightly different with Trump, in that I think he now believes his lies. Looney Tunes. Go ahead, GOP, continue to follow this guy.

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There’s actually a good write up by Patrick Byrne on what was going on and the people involved including the White House meeting with him Sidney Powell Trump and others.

Regarding Rudy Giuliani he notes that Rudy was constantly drunk and doesn’t paint a pretty picture at all.

Over the next month and a half, a number of my colleagues interacted with Rudy from time to time, afternoons and evenings, and weekends. Nearly all mentioned two things: the inordinate amount of attention he was paying to his daily podcast, and his drinking. His own staffers were bringing it up to us. Something was clear to all who were around him: almost every evening, and many early afternoons, Rudy was shit-faced. That, and his podcasts, were the only guarantees in Rudy’s life.

How DJT Lost the White House, Chapter 1: All the President’s Teams (11/3 – 12/17)

How DJT Lost the White House, Chapter 2: Was there Foreign Interference in this Election? You Make the Call.

How DJT Lost the White House, Chapter 3: Crashing the White House (December 18-22)

That actually explains a lot. Something seems off with the guy. This clarifies things.

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Looking forward to the “release the kraken” defense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/04/dominion-voting-social-media-letters/

There is a ton of information already available, to successfully sue they need to prove that the people they are suing didn’t have a reasonable basis for making the claims, they did, as this forensic report suggests.

They are not technical people but rely on data that has been provided by professionals. In addition, in Arizona I think it is, they continue to resit a court order that would allow inspection of the devices to the point the court is now threatening to hold those who resist the court order in contempt. Such extreme measures to keep the devices from an audit, gives rise to suspicion they have something to hide.

In addition to that one of the people that got to look at some of the devices claimed they were being wiped before hand.

For example.

The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission
guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of
68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election
integrity.

Like I said, the “release the kraken” defense.

But just for the record

Did a forensic audit of Dominion voting systems in Antrim County, Michigan find a 68% percent error rate?

No. Michigan’s Dominion voting system tabulators do not read ballots incorrectly 68% of the time. The so-called “forensic analysis” report that is being referenced, while ambiguous and technically incoherent in many places, does not even try to make this claim. The report is severely flawed, having been produced by Russell Ramsland Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group (“ASOG”), a firm with a history of spreading disinformation as part of error-prone affidavits for lawsuits (i.e. mistaking Minnesota for Michigan, for example). The Michigan Attorney General and Secretary of State categorically dismissed the report’s credibility, stating it is “critically flawed, filled with dramatic conclusions without any evidence to support them.” A review of the “analysis” by any independent, federally-accredited Voting System Test Laboratory (“VSTL”) can easily refute this disinformation.

Is there an algorithm that can secretly reapportion “fractions” of votes?

No, Dominion systems do not support fractional or “weighted” voting.

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Looks like they might have found another (isolated) case of voter fraud in GA. By Lin Wood. Ha!

Sources at the secretary of state’s office say an email that Wood sent to Gray caused them to launch an official investigation.

In the email, Wood confirmed he moved to South Carolina, writing “I have been domiciled in South Carolina for several months after purchasing property in the state in April.”

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He’s an ophthalmologist (eye doctor) but he seems not being able to see passed his nose!

Biden supporters don’t hang out on the internet?

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Probably the same people.