I don’t like too much this video, there are so many inaccurate remarks and statements. I would use this to promote the campaign directly. but any signature he can get, that’s ok overall. in talks with some other youtubers too with similar reach. we had quite an increase in these last few days.
funny enough now also in Italy there is a people’s petition to modify the nationality law, the difference with our petition here is that if at least 500k citizens sign-up, the petition is sent to the supreme court for review, and then a national referendum is held to approve or reject the modification proposed (this type of referendum can only delete/cancel part of or entire laws, so they very smartly modified the most relevant provisions by cancelling words and points, I like it). Just signed that electronically too.
However these referenda have been historically difficult to hold successfully, as at least 50%+1 of the electors on the electoral roll must present themselves at the polling stations and vote, and then the majority of those voters must approve the referendum item. Not many have been successful, the most important were about the reform of divorce law (making it possible) and abortion law (making it possible). Real achievements with huge turnout.
What exactly is baseless? Is it impossible that not a single person in Taiwan believes Taiwan is for Taiwanese or the ROC is for Chinese? How do you think we got this law in the first place?
If you’re not willing to hear all of the counter-arguments, no matter how silly you believe them to be, you are going to fail in your advocacy.
The term was renamed from “special professionals” to “specialist professionals” in the English text of the law, which basically means Gold Card holders.
I think the quoted “specific professionals” is just a Google translate of the law from Chinese as it usually puts the term as “specific”.
I thought the comment about the US was just an ignorant jab. And the Taiwanese aren’t homogenous.
We can still listen and lose brain cells.
And some of the people (ie constituents) you need to help you change this law might espouse these views.
If you are disrespectful to their views, they will certainly not change. And if you’re not willing to understand their point of view, you cannot provide counterarguments.
Like I said, we can listen. Respect, however, is earned.
I’ll listen. Don’t need to respect it and not particularly useful to the discussion.
Or that Taiwan is homogenous? I think plenty of aboriginals, Vietnamese, Hakka, Min, 外省人, would take issue with that.
If I were doing the petition I would have had a few things…
Citizenship for any child born here of a parent holding and APRC
Dropping the NWHOR and TARC. After all we have already lived here to qualify for naturalization.
Allow for citizenship without renunciation.
Drop the financial income or assets requirement as they do for JFRV holders.
Then explain the differences between having HHR and ID and not having it as a foreigner as it relates to normal services such as banking, home loans, not being eligible for child care and old age care granted to citizens
Drop the oh reciprocity and equality claims or my country allows this or that… it’s not about your country.
Although these are good to have, I think they each belong in their own petition since they’re referring to different articles in the law. Or in the end the policy maker may pick 1-2 things from the petition, move on with those, and ignore the rest.
The law has never been about being Chinese in the first place.
NWOHR is for anyone with an ROC national parent regardless of ethnicity. I could father a child with a non ethnic Chinese person and that child would have ROC citizenship. same for @Fuzzy_Barbecue
Just do it in one petition. Easier to have one petition then several.
But then it may lose focus. You would have some saying that there shouldn’t be a financial requirement to naturalization and meanwhile some in the dual nationality camp would be saying they would bring more economic contributions to Taiwan.
Also what would dropping the financial requirement to naturalization do for Taiwan?
I can ask the same thing as what does allowing dual citizenship do for Taiwan? Nothing really, as you people are already here. It would allow for those on ARC’s who do not have the monthly income requirement to naturalize and allow them the same long term stays others have.
You are the one who is appealing to Taiwanese to change the laws. You need as many as possible to support.
96% of the country is reported to be of the Han ethnicity.
Yes and many of them support equal rights for aboriginals, homosexuals, and minorities alike. I have faith in the rationality of the Taiwanese people. If someone is being ignorant, one should call that out.
You need their vote. ‘Calling one out’ 99% of the time only hinders your goals. You put someone on the defensive and they’re gonna dig in their heels.
Ask movements like PETA how it’s going for them. We all know the stereotype of the pushy vegan. I don’t know anyone who faced such aggressive action that changed their mind.
Even if you believe that Taiwanese are ignorant for them not knowing the naturalization requirements does not mean you have to call them out give them a dressing down over your whims to have citizenship without renunciation.
This is an issue you are interested in, not the average Taiwanese who have other things that concern them.
After all you can naturalize if you want to.
You took 2 parts out of many that I admit are controversial and didn’t bother to even explain why you think they are wrong.
What about where I said:
or
Master of Common Sense
Buddy…
The only person being ignorant is the one ignoring facts they don’t like. (Like the guy earlier who refuses to believe that Taiwan is homogenous.)
I took what Xiaofei said about HIS own country and paraphrased it. If you watch the video in its entirety you will find it. - If you cared about the debate you would’ve watched the whole video… - Clearly I care more than you… and that’s ok.
Also the part of which one I would choose? If I were an American I would choose Taiwan so I no longer have to worry about FATCA or doing tax returns to the US despite not living there.
Respect seems to only apply to arguments that you agree with.
It seems to be forgotten what I’ve contributed for the foreign community in Taiwan… simply because you don’t like what you’re hearing.
I suggest you open your ears to both sides of the debate.
I don’t need to build your respect. But you have seem to have forgotten the things that I’ve done.
Exactly!
