Long-term care services.
https://1966.gov.tw/LTC/mp-207.html
Here’s a ChatGPT discussion that explains it reasonably well in English.
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An informative discussion—covering topics including the typhoon and tourism from the PRC—addressing the petition from Michael Fahey and Brian Hioe (although I don’t agree with Fahey who claims we should play nice with aggressive tourists from you-know-where grabbing personal stuff from HKers in Taiwan—my view is that this is not cool!). The relevant part about the petition starts around the 28:00 minute mark.
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So they think the expected reply from the MOI is to deny the petition.
Has nothing to do with PRC nationals as they do not renounce anyway.
Also asking for this to be available after 10 years and not the current five years I believe is a mistake. For most Taiwanese this is not an issue for them but many will support this if explained that Taiwanese are allowed multi citizenships with other countries that also allow this.
They seem clueless that men under 36 can live here on a TARC and not do military service. lol
Can someone on a TARC work without a work permit? If not, that doesn’t sound very viable for most.
There is a Canadian who recently on FB groups claiming that no person without Chinese hertitage could natualize here. He claims he has lived here for over 3 decades and he knows the law and that no caucasian could become a citizen. @justintaiwan @comfy123 myself and several other people had to correct his ignorant nonsense.
There is a woman blogger from the USA still goes around claiming foreigners cannot get credit cards or mortgages. Yet threads on this forum and FB groups from 2005 were written on how to do so from a member who was not married. You get @Taiwan_Luthiers stating that people cannot get a mortgage on middle level incomes but @marco is single and got a mortgage without being on a high income.
I was told that foreigners can’t get a local drivers license when I arrived here. Funny how I got mine in 1990. I was told foreigners can’t own property here or get a mortgage on an ARC in the 1990’s. I did so.
Lot’s of people claiming they can’t do this or that when they either don’t know the laws or they simply take the first no for an answer.
TECO told a TARC holder they cannot sponser their partner for a spouse visa as they did not have HHR. That person emailed BOCA and said then how can ARC holders without HHR get their partners a spouse ARC then? BOCA told that TECO to process the spouse visa for the TARC holder.
Can’t be arsed to do anything is what most people should write. Now if you don’t want to renounce to get citizenship don’t claim you cannot naturalize just state you are not willing to renounce to get citizenship here.
The people I met in the airport had not heard about the petition. Ignorance is bliss.
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I was told (and still get told) that an ARC is required for a drivers licence. It is not. I did it.
But rather than learning most people call me a liar 
Or some put it in the too hard basket which I totally get. A lot of people put naturalising in the too hard basket too. Each to their own
When my son’s ARC was expiring as he turned 20 DMV added another ten years to his drivers license. No ARC and no Taiwan nationality.
When people claim that is impossible I just show them his drivers license.
From a guy I helped naturalize when I asked him to sign the petition.
Dual citizenship It’s just a bullshit word. So you go on and sign your petition, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don’t give a shit.
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Yeah parents do that when they have children and want a return on their investment in their old age.
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You both are deliberately misunderstanding what the IG guy said. His next sentence was 'Taiwan is my home, the US is my home, why can’t I have both ( as Taiwanese do, unsaid). No excuse for not wanting to renounce is needed. Can you both stop harping on ad nauseum about how you renounced and the world is a better place. That’s so odd on a Dual Nationality thread. Put it in a humbug thread or something.
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No sex services like the Australian NDIS?
Dang! I’ll be moving back to Australia lol
My mom calls Australia “home” but is never going to become Australian. You can call a place “home” without being a citizen there.
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I’ve met people with a delusion that dual citizenship is a human right. Be interesting to see the MOI reply to the petition especially since so few foreigners supported it. Around 2 percent? of APRC holders… if you throw in all eligible JFRV and other ARC holders it’s looks like it’s such a minor issue.
Pity
I called Taiwan my home before I naturalized. Realizing it is my home helped to sacrifice one citizenship with another. I understand the angst of doing so.
Considerably less than 2% I think, but Google isn’t cooperating with me today as to a recent value for the number of APRC holders so I gave up before I was able to check.
I agree with you here though — I’m kind of surprised/disappointed that the petition didn’t get more support from the group of people the proposed change would affect the most (or at least most quickly). I realize a lot of people are bloody lazy, but even I signed it and I’m not interested in naturalizing myself.
I do wonder what was actually done to get more signatures among those other groups of people, particularly migrant workers. It seems like something could have been done to promote it among some of the migrant worker organizations… though it does occur to me again that the proposed solution is really quite modest to make much of an immediate difference to them, given the difficulty most of them would have getting an APRC in the first place so that they could hold it for another 5 years (so like ~17 years to be able to naturalize without renunciation?). I’m also not sure about the ability of Vietnamese and Indonesians to keep their original nationalities when getting another anyway (I’m aware you probably know so feel free to clarify if you want — I can’t be ersed checking).
Maybe they just don’t give much of a toss about it though? Possibly a similar situation with most regular ARC holders too.
Here is what the response from the MOI might look like:
Ministry of the Interior – Response to Dual Nationality Petition
We would like to extend our sincere thanks to our foreign friends for initiating the petition for dual nationality. It is always encouraging to see engagement and discussion on matters of minor importance.
However, after carefully reviewing the petition, we have noticed some interesting patterns. Despite there being nearly 40,000 Alien Permanent Resident Certificate (APRC) holders in Taiwan, fewer than 1,000 signed the petition. In fact, the majority of signatures came from Taiwanese citizens, not from foreign residents. This suggests to us that, while the issue may be of interest, it does not appear to be a high priority for most foreign residents.
Additionally, more foreigners already choose to naturalize and become full citizens each year than those who apply for APRC status. As such, dual nationality would only benefit a small portion of the foreign population in Taiwan.
We are also concerned by the lack of support and empathy shown for other foreign nationals in Taiwan, such as those on JFRV (Joining Family Resident Visa) and other visa types, who face similar challenges but were largely ignored in the push for dual nationality. This lack of consideration for fellow foreign residents is disturbing, as it seems to disregard the struggles of others in the foreign community.
Based on this data and behavior, we believe the desire for dual nationality is not as widespread or as inclusive as initially presented. Nevertheless, we appreciate the dialogue and will continue to monitor the situation closely.
Thank you once again for your contribution to this discussion.
Sincerely,
Since 2014 Vietnamese can resume. Indonesians cannot have dual citizenship.
Funny that. Because actually in a number of their discussions many did not care about the petition because they all know they can resume.
Same with on a Philippine teachers page. Comments pointed out that Filipinos can resume anyway.