Taiwan is my home and has been for quite a while in my mind, I just don’t “feel Taiwanese” (and I’m fine with that, it’s not something I’m seeking).
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I think that’s how every foreigner should feel wherever they are.
Whether foreigners enjoy the same rights is a different issue.
I would, 100%.
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I guess some Amish people don’t speak English. I’ll give you that.
I still get people on FB forums getting triggered because when they asked what I did to get ahead I reply I stopped being a foreigner and am Taiwanese. They cannot accept I feel quite at home being just another Taiwanese. They have the right to be triggered I guess. They always tell me I will never be accepted as Taiwanese. Funny I only get told that by foreigners lol.
People can speak what they want, I don’t care.
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I wouldn’t be triggered but I would think you are delulu.
Sorry a middle aged white man is just not Taiwanese. If I obtain US citizenship somehow some day I still wouldn’t call myself American. If you didn’t grow up in a country you are always a foreigner. That’s how I (and most people) feel. 
Congratulations then, you’ve finally now been told it by a(nother) Taiwanese. 
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A freind of mine who grew up in the UK, parents immigrated from Switzerland, married a German lass. She was telling me after her husband naturalized as a German citizen she will never accept him as being a true German as he was not born and raised in Germany. I said to her such a good thing you have foreign citizen children then. She was not amused. People are unique in how they think of one.
@Marco will tell you Italians do not consider him to be Italian as he was born and raised in Canada. I’ve been told by soome Irish I won’t be accepted as being Irish because I wasn’t born or raised there. Yet the same Irish people telling me this, their “Irish” citizen kids were not born or raised in Ireland either but they consider them Irish. Yet their kids have never stepped foot in Ireland.
Won’t be anything new then 
So you speak for most of the people in the world do you? lol
Also I am not middle aged. More like eldery aged. Getting ready for the next journey to oblivion.
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I (and I believe most people) don’t care about being born, but being raised is key to who you are. A lot of people just happened to be born elsewhere.
I don’t. There are polls for these things.
Even amongst liberals, the overwhelming majority believe that you have to speak English to be truly American.
Maybe someone should inform these liberals that the USA does not have an official language. Good thing is they don’t speak for Taiwanese.
When @comfy123 naturlaized and his work colleagues found out they threw a party to welcome him as a “new Taiwanese” Him not being fluent in Chinese is not an issue for them. They did ask him how he managed to pass the written Chinese language test though. lol
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IIUC, you believe it’s possible for people to change their gender right? If I were to declare I’m now a woman, that’s something that should be respected by others?
Why is it not possible then for people also to really adopt other nationalities after birth/later in life? If somebody naturalizes, with or without renouncing their previous citizenship, and the government confirms they’re now Taiwanese or whatever, why do you still regard them as their previous nationality or somehow “other”.
If being raised in some particular way is key to who they are, how is it possible for people to adopt different genders later in life, when that’s also not how they were raised?
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You can be “new Taiwanese” sure, but you can’t be REAL Taiwanese.
You can certainly naturalise. But you just will never be from that country because you are from elsewhere.
Because gender dysmorphia is a classified disease and can be cured by transitioning. One’s nationality is not.
I’m would disagree with this map instantly as Taiwan allows dual citizenship without question and is marked red.
I have it and I naturalised. I didn’t do anything illegal.
I would argue yes. Language isn’t the only thing that contributes to a country. Surely there are Spanish (or other) speakers with low level English that contributed to the US in some other way. Economically, family, arts? Or is this only possible for English speakers.
They decided to contribute to the US and apply for citizenship. They are American. They chose to be American. It wasn’t merely chance.
Also the US absorbed Spanish and French (other?) speaking colonies so how are they any less American than the English speaking ex-colonies?
Your birth citizenship/s is mostly luck. The rest is your choice
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Taiwan allows dual citizenship for Taiwanese people. That’s a perk for locals and is irrelevant to foreigners.
I did say that Spanish is fine. It’s practically the second language in America anyway. Plenty of Americans of all races and ethnicities speak Spanish.
How many people in the US are exclusively French-speaking these days?
Yes, that’s why the key word is RAISED, not born.
What a load of BS. I have never held household registration. I was not born in Taiwan. Neither of my parents are Taiwanese. I naturalised as a pleb. I have dual citizenship.
Taiwan allows dual citizenship, you just don’t want to renounce. They are not the same thing.
Taiwan’s law is very clear. There is no restriction on dual citizenship.
Resumption is a requirement (for most) of the naturalisation process.
The 2 truths are mutually exclusive.
How would I know? It’s not the point. The point is speaking a language doesn’t prove anything. Your devotion to a place does.
Also why are we talking about the US? No one cares about the US other than Americans