A month of Keto

I’ve dropped over six Kg in two months with diet and exercise (not really keto diet , partly only). I seem to be reaching close to a plateau but I want to lose at least one more Kg and then keep it off. They will put me more firmly in the healthy BMI zone.
I did a fairly strenuous gym session and it didn’t drop much weight when looking at pre and post session compared to before. That could be me maxed out on the easier 'water loss stuff.
Maybe I need to go full keto. It’s probably the lattes :grinning:. The strong positive is that I’m in the best shape in decades though still a small belly it’s hard to get rid of isn’t it.
I’m really looking forward to my next annual check up , my external metrics are better (for first time in years) but I’d like to see if my cholesterol , glucose and Hb1ac have improved at all.

I am so glad so many people have come on board and are having such great results!

So now drum roll for first ten day results:

September 6 (day ten):
Weight 219 lbs (11 lbs lost/ 5 kilos!!!)
Measurements: chest- 111cm (lost 6 cm), belly 109cm (lost 4 cm), waist 101cm (lost 3cm/ around 1 inch).

Fantastic results. I am very happy with it and feel better all around. Tonight we are.going out for dinner, where I won’t really watch what I am eating and will eat carbs, and then tomorrow morning back to full Keto.

Thanks everyone for the support and community.

Awesome. It took me over a month to lose 5 kilo. But I don’t have a lot of extra to give up.

BMI standards don’t work for me. I’m in the unhealthy zone, but I’m sure the scale just doesn’t work for me. Even fat percentage. I look nothing like the pictures for 27%. If I lose about 3 more kilos I look very thin, and that’s at around 25% body fat.

As for that extra kilo, you might analyze your eating habits and kick that one daily thing that’s holding you back. It worked for me when I last plateaud.

Do any of you guys do IF ( intermittent fasting)?

My blood pressure medication (which I need to take with food), as well as my work schedule (7am - 5 pm) makes it hard to do the traditional skip breakfast, have only coffee, and then eat lunch and then dinner within a 4 hour period.

Right now I have been eating breakfast around 6:20am, then dinner between 6-7pm with no lunch. It has worked pretty good so far. Not exactly traditional IF protocol, but so far so good.

I’ve been into IF since 2011. I eat one meal a day at around 8:00pm. After that I eat healthy snacks until I am full. It gives me a ton of energy and a degree of mental clarity. As with all diets, it can be difficult maintain due to social obligations. Still, anytime you want to return to your diet you simply start stringing together days of IF. I’d love to try the keto diet but it seems a bit complicated and hard to maintain.

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I do want to ask though…

Is Keto an all or nothing deal?

Meaning do you have to have only 15 grams of carb per day or less, full on keto, and anything more than that and you won’t have the intended effect?

Let’s suppose I just reduce my carb intake, but replace the less carb with fat, would that work, or would it be worse?

All or nothing…it’s based on fat percentage, not raw count in grams. The actual amount of carbs you eat will vary depending how many calories you decide you need.

Worse. Fat and sugar combined really do harm. Like a chicharron -fried pork grind- and a Coke, that would be lethal.

The general idea is that you will burn your storage fat, or rather, the ketones, instead of glucose (sugar) in order to function. To achieve the state in which you do, called ketosis, you have to remove all sources of sugar because your body is used to that, like cocaine addiction.

Low carb might help but remember veggies are carbs too, and you want veggies in your diet, not just dong puo rou!

Not really I guess :grin:…It’s not going to be 100% either / or.

Basically the metabolic pathways will shift according to which source of nutrients are in excess and readily available. Fat and starches have plenty of energy to unlock,
proteins less so.
Metabolic pathways are pretty complex though, have a look :grin:. Thankfully TCA and Krebs cycle ain’t that complicated.

http://biochemical-pathways.com/#/map/1

Sugar and simple sugars in particular , the body doesn’t need to break them down much so it’s like instant energy into the system and if in excess they just get stored as fat.

In fact simple sugars are much much worse than that, like glucose cos they mess up your insulin sensitivity with your sugar levels jerking up and down all the time and then you get diabetes when the cells give up (well it’s one way you get diabetes, there are other ways we aren’t really sure about ). And when you get diabetes that’s REALLY a pain in the arse. So yeah folks go easy on the rice , bread , bubble tea and sodas. You can lose weight and you reduce your diabetes risk as well.

I think I might be prediabetes… last I checked my a1c was around 5 or so. But I don’t have the money to go very strict keto diet. I mean I’d spend far more than my monthly budget in a week on food trying to follow a keto plan. I just thought what if I stopped drinking anything sugary or something and just reduce carbs…

A low-carb diet is still beneficial and healthy even if not in ketosis.

The best thing do is lots of exercise and keep your weight down within healthy BMI range. Best medicine is exercise and I have that on authority of some experts who spend their lives researching this.

I lack the energy level to have effective exercise. The longest distance I can run at any pace is about 100 yards. After that I’d have pains and ache all over the body.

That was me before, literally last year. I ran 8 km today and did weights. It’s possible to improve !
Use the local sports centers in Taipei, they are cheap.

the heat and extreme humidity does not help either…

How much is a gym membership?

It’s 50nt a session at most of the gyms in the sports centers. No membership required.

You can also do what I do: I have the dvd/books, some free weights second hand and an exercise table. Due to my skin issues, I cannot go to the gym, and I find it expensive. With self discipline, you can do it.

Try removing one thing at a time. First one is obvious sugar, like sugar you add to drinks. Cakes, cookies, candy. The sewer waters of Yankee imperialism… Two weeks without and you’ll be glowing.

Then comes the hard part: rice, potatoes, bread and noodles. Out.

Now every meal becomes a fancy one, like a wedding banquet. No rice at wedding banquet, right?

What carb levels do people here consider Keto? Under 30 grams? Under 50 grams? Lower is better?

Just curious …