[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Try this site - its the original.
nefafoundation.org/
click on the “Prophet Mohammad Cartoon Protest” tab
Maybe it will work for you.[/quote]
Thanks, but no joy-tried from half a dozen links; all I got was blank blue space and New Age music.
Saw enough still shots to get the general message
Wankers. Crazies. “If you don’t like it here…” “Freedom- Love it or Leave it”
Europe’s twilight? A good read from The Sunday Times:
[quote][size=150][b]We should fear Holland
[quote]Because ‘I’ (meaning the person in question) hasn’t done anything wrong?
Because I am a legal resident / citizen, going peacably about my business not harming anyone else?
Because part of the essence of our society is that we don’t discriminate against people based on their skin colour, ethnic background or religious beliefs (the last being subject to the condition of obeying the law)
You know, some of those principles of Western Civilisation we’re supposedly trying to uphold.[/quote]
See what I mean?
If I occupy a moderately extreme viewpoint which states we should “send people out of the country” then it’s the worst thing anyone can say.
However, have a group of people with placards shouting about the extermination of people who don’t believe in their religion - the bombing of a country and it’s people and an upcomng Jihad then it’s all OK. It’s just harmless freedom of speech.
Exactly what I expected from most people when I worte it. If you look carefully, MikeN, there is a disclaimer on that post - I worte it to see what kind of reaction I would get, not necessarily because I believe what I am typing.
I do believe that the good old treason law should be utilised. These (so called) British citizens who reap the rewards of freedom, democracy, benefits and wealth who so openly hate the west (when it suits them) should be hanged in public on the village green.
And this is something I do mean.
But only after being sent off by a Mullah and afterwards buried with due sensitivity to their religion, of course. We musn’t offend. 
HG
But only after being sent off by a Mullah and afterwards buried with due sensitivity to their religion, of course. We musn’t offend.
HG[/quote]
Hell with that, cover 'em in pigs blood and bury them in a landfill made of used tampons. 
It’s a sad day for western civilization when the only weapon we can muster to fight Islamic fascism is neoconservative fascism.
It seems that day is here though. That’s the inevitable price to be paid apparently for the last thirty years of wretched liberal arts education in the U.S. and Europe in which C students in history were made to believe they were actually A students.
[quote]This may seem fantastic to people in Britain. But the story of Holland
[quote=“The Sunday Times”]A London magazine withdrew the cartoons from its website after the British police informed the editor they could not protect him, his staff, or his offices from attack. This happened only days before the police provided 500 officers to protect a “peaceful” Muslim protest in Trafalgar Square.
It seems the British police
[quote=“Dangermouse”][quote]Because ‘I’ (meaning the person in question) hasn’t done anything wrong?
Because I am a legal resident / citizen, going peacably about my business not harming anyone else?
Because part of the essence of our society is that we don’t discriminate against people based on their skin colour, ethnic background or religious beliefs (the last being subject to the condition of obeying the law)
You know, some of those principles of Western Civilisation we’re supposedly trying to uphold.[/quote]
See what I mean?
If I occupy a moderately extreme viewpoint which states we should “send people out of the country” then it’s the worst thing anyone can say.[/quote]
No, there are much worse things people can say, involving camps, showers etc. See David Irving
As long as they are just talking, that’s exactly what it is- just as you talking here is just that. If it’s a question of you or them doing these things, then we have to judge it on the basis of actions.
You are wrong if you try to expel people for the crime of being related to someone who says something offensive, and , of course, they are much more wrong if they try to exterminate infidels.
[quote]Exactly what I expected from most people when I worte it. If you look carefully, MikeN, there is a disclaimer on that post - I worte it to see what kind of reaction I would get, not necessarily because I believe what I am typing.
I do believe that the good old treason law should be utilised. These (so called) British citizens who reap the rewards of freedom, democracy, benefits and wealth who so openly hate the west (when it suits them) should be hanged in public on the village green.
And this is something I do mean.[/quote]
They should be hanged for the crime of openly hating the West?
I think you’d have to go back a few centuries to find a law like that. Last time people were hanged in Britain for speech crimes would have been…what, Cromwell’s day? (In England, anyway- not counting Irish)
With all due respect, surely there is a huge difference between just talking and advocating?
I’m quite sure if I went around with a placard and a few of my mates talking about hating muslims there would be cries of racism. I’m absolutely certain that I would be arrested. What I am also very sure about is that the police would try their upmost to stop the demonstration once it had started.
For your information, at least one of the people in the protest has been spotted in protests all around europe.
These demonstrations aren’t just hollow threats - these people mean business and they will, and they know they will, strike at the UK and the west again.
I can agree to this, and I’m glad that different levels of wrongness have been identified.
[quote]They should be hanged for the crime of openly hating the West?
[/quote]
You know, i don’t exactly like about the west. There are alot of things I hate about Britain, alot of things I hate about the United states, france, Germany… however, never would I inciote violence against these countries.
If you are a British citizen and you openly threaten the British way of life, taking all you can from a country and then bombing it or at least inciting the bombing and murder of innocent people which is EXACTLY what those people were doing (not merely talking) then surely they should be at least imprisoned for a very long time.
The leading republican supporter Roger Casement, Northern Ireland, was hung for High Treason in 1916.
The law for hanging for the offence of treason still stands. Unfortunately, it’s never used.
Treason: Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
Most of the participants of that protest, by their actions, clearly fall under committing this offence. This is not merely “talking” or “freedom of speech.”
I’m sure this was changed a few years ago to fall in line with the eurocrats.
And was the other hanging offence arson (of the docklands) or something that would hinder the country in times of war?
Very possibly. I think it’s gone into obselecence (sp!) like the law which says you can still kill a welshman within the walls of Hereford between the hours of 2 and 4 pm on a Sunday afternoon, as long as it is with a bow and arrow.
They should update it and state that you can kill a Eurocrat within the walls of Hereford all week as long as you do it using Frankfuters, Baguettes and Brussels Sprouts.
Very possibly. I think it’s gone into obselecence (sp!) like the law which says you can still kill a welshman within the walls of Hereford between the hours of 2 and 4 pm on a Sunday afternoon, as long as it is with a bow and arrow.
They should update it and state that you can kill a Eurocrat within the walls of Hereford all week as long as you do it using Frankfuters, Baguettes and Brussels Sprouts.[/quote]
I guess that’s all you Brits would be able to use since you’ve outlawed pretty much any kind of gun ownership. Care to reconsider? 
Americans just don’t get irony. Even if we were allowed to keep handguns, sub machine guns, bazookers and tanks this law would still be more fun. 
(By the way, you can own a shotgun of any bore with a licence in any part of the UK; I own one and a broken one).
Update on protestors:
[quote] Muslim protesters face arrest
By John Steele, (Filed: 08/03/2006)
Arrests of Muslim protesters who demonstrated about cartoons of the prophet Mohammed in London last month are imminent, Scotland Yard said last night.
The Feb 3 protests outside the Danish Embassy caused widespread offence. Some protesters chanted and carried placards glorifying the July 7 London bombings and threatening beheadings.
Muslims protest outside the Danish Embassy
No arrests of Muslim protesters were made at the time, a decision by police that was widely criticised.
Yesterday the Metropolitan Police disclosed that the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) had advised it that potential public order offences were committed.
Arrests, questioning and charges are now expected in the coming weeks in a number of cases said to run to “more than single figures”.
A spokesman for Scotland Yard said last night: "During the demonstration on Feb 3 2006 the Met deployed specialist evidence gathers. This material has been collated and examined by the investigation team.
“A file of evidence was submitted to the CPS for their consideration and we have been advised that there are sufficient grounds to arrest individuals for offences under the Public Order Act.”
Incitement to racial hatred is said to be a potential charge.
Sources said the evidence involved a “number of identified and unidentified individuals”.
Operation Laverda has focused on six complaints from witnesses but the Met also received 570 complaints from people offended by images of the protests.
David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said in a letter he sent to Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, yesterday: "There is a clear public interest in ensuring that those who incite murder are appropriately dealt with and an equal public interest that there is no unnecessary delay.
“Furthermore, not to take action is to let down the moderate Muslim majority.”
telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … wstop.html[/quote]
I remember reading that the “punishment” of penal servitutude to Oz was still on some statute of UK law. Just tried to find it but couldn’t.
Tainan Cowboy, thanks for that, but it’s more interesting if you can hang around long enough to make a comment too.
Dunno, I’m starting to wonder what the upside is from locking up these neanderthals. I mean, okay, they have strongly rejected the basic premise of our culture, so they can’t really be considered fit for migration. But presuming they are already citizens a couple of generations old, what do we do?
In any case, I can’t really imagine any latter day 911 wannabe is going to blow his cover screaming death to infidels outside a Birmingham mosque
HG
And people bitch about conditions in Gitmo! Sheesh!
Does that mean one day Cuba might rule the world’s cricket? That’s not too bad.
Now I’m not necessarily making any link here . . . nah fark it, I am.
[quote]Family may provide evolution clue
Five siblings from Turkey who can only walk on all fours could provide science with an insight into human evolution, researchers have said.
The three sisters and two brothers could yield clues to why our ancestors made the transition from four-legged to two-legged animals, says a UK expert. [/quote]
So in the interests of science, perhaps we should isolate the neanderthals and observe them. Gitmo makes more sense now. It’s all a bloody great evolutionary lab. Of course we can never risk these freaks breeding in any uncontrolled way. Umm, there’s another option Sieg! Erh, hi!
HG
I heard the son is trying out for Turkey’s Figure Skating Team.
