APRC: Worth it?

Still wouldnt shock me. But curious your theory on why.

I get separation. But i wpuld assume the web srrvices and computer systems would be compatible, no?

They’re not compatible, and when I wrote a letter to the MOI pointing this out they replied that they are doing this intentionally so foreigners can still be distinguished.

I can actually accept having ID numbers that depict nation vs foteign. Much lime the taiwan local ID numbers depict county and gender. This is a logistics thing that is quite reasonable. I think anyway. Very open to opposing opinions that might convince me otherwise. But this is how computing works, placing things into groups.

What i feel makes no sense is that if this new system of one letter and the rest numbers doesnt click with computers here. As that is what we assume the reason for the fix is. If not, what is the reasoning behind a fix that doesnt fix what we think needs fixing ? That is the question.

Being ignorant on this issue, i always assumed the issed was a double letter. Making the second placement a nber i thought would fix this coding issue…if not, what is the next step? If i can get educated i certainly dont mind spending some time with people in office chatting. As we all should if oppotunity arises. But how to proceed with a factual base?

The format is more complicated than that. Most validators explicitly check for a 1 or 2 as the second digit, and a checksum final digit. They’re set on using 7, 8, or 9 as the second digit for ARC holders, which means many platforms will still fail to validate these ID numbers. Not only that, providers who actually made the effort to accept ARC numbers with two letters will now be broken as well.

Well, damn. If that is true it is a bit if a mess.

Have they (gov) discussed this publicly on how it will effect services? The few things i read were about the gov and foreign bodies collaborating so it seems strange to me this would be done so without good reason? Is there somehow a foreign threat (china) angle to it?

This is super dumb in many respects as they should reserve the number 3 for third gender applications. Doh!

Guy

Ah sorry, my mistake. They’re going to change the second digit for ARC-holders to 7, 8 or 9. Citizens don’t get a third gender option.

So they should save themselves all that trouble and cost and just scrap the changes if they are going to be so half assed as usual.

All it does is make a hassle to change and update info with banks, nhi, etc while companies can continue to discriminate against our status.

At least APRC holders can refuse to change our numbers

Could you elaborate?

But it makes sense for governments to make changes and basically start a make work program. One must always make people who go to univeraity feel like they got a reward for spending so much on a degree. Chaos would ensure otherwisem

In this case, job creation/wellfare.

Yeah they said APRC holders have the option to take the new number system or keep the old one. I’d keep the old one personally all else being equal if they don’t fix that checksum system.
Too much of a pita to advise so many banks and telecoms etc the new number .
Taishin bank even said if you get a new number they will cancel your existing credit card and force you to reapply like a new customer. Ain’t nobody got time for that

That’s ridiculous. You’re not a new person, even on paper. They have to change one number.

Ya that is pretty friggen messed up. But to be fair, in most counteies people are a number. Here itis ID number, in canada it is social security number. You cant work or do much of anything without it.

Seldom does a decent group of people get to change their number. Wonder if this can be exploited somehow. I am sure there will be at least one drunk who figures he can get reset back to zero…on an unrelated note, where is that Brittish face tattoo dude these days?

Narrator: “They DID bother and it IS a royal pain”

We have a nice collection here:

It’s quite likely the cost of this change was the whole point of it.

Who has the contracts to issue all the new ARC cards…wink…wink.

I’m not even joking.

Well… Have you ever heard about Hanlon’s Razor?