[quote=“sandman”][quote=“Omniloquacious”]there are no right and wrongs about our choices as long as those choices do not breach the prevailing rules of social morality as enshrined in the law (i.e., no pedophilia, necrophilia, incest, bestiality, et al).
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Bloody killjoys. Bloody everywhere these days. :fume:[/quote]
No sheep shagging allowed, sorry 
Oh, and very nice to meet all of you. 
Thanks for welcoming me.
I was going to list loads of dirty Japanese porn sites - in Japanese - but that would make me look like an old Japanese letch. You think that white guys objectify women, when certain Asian countries are famous for producing some very disturbing porn, such as simulated rape and public humiliation, both for their own domestic audiences and for export? And the porn produced is based on ethnicity, and is not circumstantial, as the pornography produced relies on the assumed or stereotypical nature of Japanese women as perceived by men.
Yet you single out white guys as being racist just because they are sexually attracted to females of a different hue?
[quote=“SolidChamp”]
I’m brand new to Taiwan, hence my reasons for joining this forum, hence my low post count. Literally “fresh off the boat”, so-to-speak. .[/quote]
Good for you! Taiwanese women like fresh meat. :roflmao:
[quote=“SolidChamp”]
Also, I don’t know what I find to be more disgusting, the fact that I used the term “yellow fever”, or the fact that you singled out Asian women solely for the purpose of sexual objectification. [/quote]
This is Taiwan! If looking for a date, you don’t have to single out anyone just throw out your net. They are all going to be Asian.
[quote=“SolidChamp”]
You’re focusing on all of these things based solely on their race. It’s like saying all black men are criminals, good at basketball, and have massive penises…[/quote]
You are the one saying it.
[quote=“Original title”]
why do people come to Taiwan to be teachers?.[/quote]
Why do I always feel like I have to explain myself or need anyone’s and everyone’s approval.
Do I need a reason so someone can approve?
Same applies to the other thread here with the title
Am I supposed to leave?
Knock yourself out.
[quote=“SolidChamp”][quote=“Charlie Phillips”]
What a load of crap. I know people who have a fetish for fake-tanned, false-titted, blond Californian porn stars. Do you have an article on that?
Personally, I have a foot fetish for amputees. It might sound sick, but most of my sexual partners miss their feet as much as I do.
I feel sexually frustrated in Taiwan and am thinking of moving to Alaska or Siberia where victims of frostbite are statistically superior.
I came for the sex but stayed for the beer.[/quote]
This response is full of win. Seriously, gold star. I don’t think you’ll see a more colorful response on these boards for about a week. (no sarcasm here)
I think I’m just a bit jaded and cynical of the world these days, and that’s just the nature of my comments. After living in Korea for nearly six years, and speaking only from a matter of experience and personal perspective, I just tend to lean towards the notion that most foreign guys I see here in Asia are trolling for Asian women. That certainly seemed to be the case in Korea, relating to roughly 90% of the guys I met there.
Oh well. To each his own, I suppose.
Not that I can put this accusation to anyone posting here, but personally I think it takes a real douche bag to objectify women based on ethnicity. Personally speaking, I think that article I posted made some very valid points. But whatever.
The point I was trying to make was in relation to the question asked. I noticed that, most of the time, it’s a lot of white men who tend to travel to an Asian country and settle down as English teachers. And yes, most of these white men end up hooking up with an Asian woman. I’ve met quite a few awesome guys who marry into the culture and have families and dig in deep. And yes, I think the guys that do treat Asian women solely as sexual objects to be used as a result of ethnicity/cultural traits are just a bunch of creepy douche bags. (tell me I’m way off base here)
Again, not applying this to anyone here. Just saying. My perspective isn’t worth much when you subscribe to the “live and let live” credo. So I think we can keep that in mind and get along just fine.
Opinions are like assholes, indeed.[/quote]
Are you, perchance, a western woman living in Asia? We tend to ahem see things slightly differently from the guys here 
In other words, I think you’ve got some valid points. Obviously these stereotypes do not apply to all of the men here- I’ve seen quite a few who a) are with their Asian wife/girlfriend simply because they fell in love, not because she’s Asian and b) men who enjoy the whispy-waisted, fine-limbed, omni-characterized women, but simply because they would like any attractive woman. These are decent guys, just as good or as bad as guys anywhere.
However, I’ve also met my fair share of men here who have a quantity, not quality approach to the local women (and lie to the girls about it- oh sweety, of course you’re the only girl I’m dating!), frequent brothels (ahem- philosophically i have nothing against this. It’s an at-will exchange of a service for money. However, when it’s someone I know, there’s a bit of a blech factor there…), love to take any opportunity to talk about how ‘western women just don’t do it for them AT ALL ANYMORE’ (thanks sonny, you never did it for me at all, ever!) and actually seem to take joy in the fact that the woman they are dating doesn’t understand much that is going on (when one guy’s girlfriend asked me waht her boyfriend meant when he asked a new guy “so, are you enjoying the local flora and fauna?” and I tried to explain it to her, he got mad at me…he said this while she was sitting next to her… 
), doesn’t talk in social situations, and has no clue that he is cheating on her (coincidentally, several of my acquaintances girlfriends have been asking me recently about my impression of their boyfriend- that’s right guys! Keep your girl away from NTLT- she’ll say what she really thinks!). Sometimes, these douchebags seem louder and more visible than their solid, decent counter-parts.
And then a good percentage of the guys are somewhere in between these two extremes.
It seems that there are quite a few decent family men on these boards, and the douche-bags actually do get silenced pretty quickly when they say something Asian-fetishy. Still, it’s going to be a tender issue. We are, after all, in Asia, and this board is, after all, frequented by white men…living in Asia…
Yeah, I think it’s time to give this a rest. We have all been exposed to the “charms” of the Winston Wus in this world so there really is no point pretending that there are a lot of really creepy douchebags out there. That gentle loquacious Omni is NOT one of them is known to us all, especially his many friends, and SC should have been a little more careful about running off on someone he knows nothing about based on one comment he twisted in the worst way possible.
But, the lad has shown better manners than most of the old posters who would still be fighting even when they knew they were wrong. He’s admitted his errors and wishes to move on and become a member of this [strike]oddball misfit forum of expat ne’er do wells[/strike] esteemed forum.
[quote=“NonTocareLeTete”] However, I’ve also met my fair share of men here who have a quantity, not quality approach to the local women (and lie to the girls about it- oh sweety, of course you’re the only girl I’m dating!), frequent brothels (ahem- philosophically I have nothing against this. … Sometimes, these douchebags seem louder and more visible than their solid, decent counter-parts.
… We are, after all, in Asia, and this board is, after all, frequented by white men…living in Asia…[/quote]
While such behaviour may be hard to behold, it also needs to be recognized that there are white blokes behaving very similarly with white girls back where you grew up. And with girls of whatever colour they can feast their lecherous appetites on. And black guys and Asian guys and guys of all hues and ethnicities doing the same. And Taiwanese guys doing it here in Taiwan, and in China and Southeast Asia and wherever else they have the opportunity to do so. And men everywhere doing it with women everywhere.
It’s in men’s nature to play the field, to fornicate as much as they can with as many women as they can find to accommodate their lascivious ravening. Some men have the character and moral code to desist from such behaviour when the opportunity to do so is there, and some – probably the majority, at least when they’re young and hyper-horny, and not restrained by the diktat of the pulpit – do not.
It’s not a white man thing, it’s a man thing.
Does anyone else think it a pity that this has been temped?
In my view, it would be better kept in the original thread. It offers a salutary lesson to any newbie who might come barging in here without sufficient understanding of the fit and proper way to join in discussions on this site, and it’s also entirely relevant to the subject of the thread.
Or, dear Mods, if I may so suggest, could we move this from Temp to Living in Taiwan or D&R or wherever appropriate, under a title of its own such as “Yellow fever? Not at all!” or “Asian fixation or men just being men?” or something along those lines.
I have more I’d like to say on this subject, and there are posts from others that I’d like to pick up on.
Sure, with the caveat that if it requires continual deletion of flames it’ll have to go back.
Thanks, TG.
And to add to my previous reply to NonTocareLaTete (whose views I always enjoy reading and value highly):
I bet there are very few men who, given the power of a Mao Zedong or a Chinese emperor or Turkish sultan, would not enjoy keeping a harem and sating their lust on any and every woman who pleased their eye. Or on boys and men, or members of both sexes, if that’s how they’re inclined.
Some white blokes in Taiwan enjoy a very tiny fraction of such power, and milk it to the full. Some blokes enjoy it wherever they are, and take as much advantage of it as they can. Men of all colours and ethnicities are no different from each other in this regard. If they can, they most likely will.
Im going to go out on the limb and fall off the ****ing tree, but i dont care. I ****ing LOVE Taiwanese ladies ! (and indonesian and filippino and japanese and korean and vietnamese and…and.) 
Heck i even LOVE white girls !
All i can say is **** !
[quote=“Omniloquacious”][quote=“NonTocareLeTete”] However, I’ve also met my fair share of men here who have a quantity, not quality approach to the local women (and lie to the girls about it- oh sweety, of course you’re the only girl I’m dating!), frequent brothels (ahem- philosophically I have nothing against this. … Sometimes, these douchebags seem louder and more visible than their solid, decent counter-parts.
… We are, after all, in Asia, and this board is, after all, frequented by white men…living in Asia…[/quote]
While such behaviour may be hard to behold, it also needs to be recognized that there are white blokes behaving very similarly with white girls back where you grew up. And with girls of whatever colour they can feast their lecherous appetites on. And black guys and Asian guys and guys of all hues and ethnicities doing the same. And Taiwanese guys doing it here in Taiwan, and in China and Southeast Asia and wherever else they have the opportunity to do so. And men everywhere doing it with women everywhere.
It’s in men’s nature to play the field, to fornicate as much as they can with as many women as they can find to accommodate their lascivious ravening. Some men have the character and moral code to desist from such behaviour when the opportunity to do so is there, and some – probably the majority, at least when they’re young and hyper-horny, and not restrained by the diktat of the pulpit – do not.
It’s not a white man thing, it’s a man thing.[/quote]
Well posted :bravo: that pretty much clears everything up. The sad thing is there are plenty of douchey white guys that lie and cheat, breaking all the young girls’ hearts. That gives us all a bad name because whities are a small group here that get lumped together. All they got to do is go to clubs and stick with the slutty types and everyone gets what they want, but no, some got to go prey on the innocent and naive. So now many in the public who see me think I’m sexually rapacious, incapable of monogamy and likely have some type of STD. The funniest part is when some of the white guys here try so hard to convince themselves and others that their reason for staying in Taiwan has little or nothing to do with the women that eventually they actually believe it’s sincere. That’s when the rock really has them by the balls :roflmao:
Don’t most single hetero guys troll for women whereever they are? Yes. Are not most women in Asia in fact Asian women? Yes. So, why is it so remarkable to you that men in Asia troll for asian women?
Indeed. So, why did you start this thread? :s
But, you’re OK with objectifying women based on other factors? :no-no:
Yes. 
How remarkable! Wait a minute… are not most women in Asia in fact Asian women? Yes. We’ve already established this. So… Wow! Men hook up with women… Stop the presses! 
We’ve got a real story, right here! 
They’re cads, and their thoughtlessly selfish behaviour is deplorable. They have their counterparts everywhere in the world, and plenty among the local population here. They’ll be a great source of concern for me in about 11 or 12 years time, when my daughter reaches her mid-teens. And they’ll deserve the sting of every pellet from my shotgun if they make any move to mess with her.
[quote=“Tigerman”]
How remarkable! Wait a minute… are not most women in Asia in fact Asian women? Yes. We’ve already established this. So… Wow! Men hook up with women… Stop the presses! We’ve got a real story, right here! [/quote]
Ain’t it just so! The only amazing thing is that anyone can ever be amazed by it, or view it as anything to be remarked on at all.
[quote=“Omniloquacious”][quote=“NonTocareLeTete”] However, I’ve also met my fair share of men here who have a quantity, not quality approach to the local women (and lie to the girls about it- oh sweety, of course you’re the only girl I’m dating!), frequent brothels (ahem- philosophically I have nothing against this. … Sometimes, these douchebags seem louder and more visible than their solid, decent counter-parts.
… We are, after all, in Asia, and this board is, after all, frequented by white men…living in Asia…[/quote]
While such behaviour may be hard to behold, it also needs to be recognized that there are white blokes behaving very similarly with white girls back where you grew up. And with girls of whatever colour they can feast their lecherous appetites on. And black guys and Asian guys and guys of all hues and ethnicities doing the same. And Taiwanese guys doing it here in Taiwan, and in China and Southeast Asia and wherever else they have the opportunity to do so. And men everywhere doing it with women everywhere.
It’s in men’s nature to play the field, to fornicate as much as they can with as many women as they can find to accommodate their lascivious ravening. Some men have the character and moral code to desist from such behaviour when the opportunity to do so is there, and some – probably the majority, at least when they’re young and hyper-horny, and not restrained by the diktat of the pulpit – do not.
It’s not a white man thing, it’s a man thing.[/quote]
Nevertheless, it is, in my experience, the case that Taiwan attracts such men in the same way that Thailand attracts paedophiles. I read enough “I’m here, now where’s the pussy?” first posts on the D&R board before I stopped bothering to go there, to get that impression. Taiwanese women have a reputation for being all those things that your post exemplifies, a reputation your post perpetuates, and any douchebag reading it would be packing his bags.
[quote=“Petrichor”][quote=“Omniloquacious”][quote=“NonTocareLeTete”] However, I’ve also met my fair share of men here who have a quantity, not quality approach to the local women (and lie to the girls about it- oh sweety, of course you’re the only girl I’m dating!), frequent brothels (ahem- philosophically I have nothing against this. … Sometimes, these douchebags seem louder and more visible than their solid, decent counter-parts.
… We are, after all, in Asia, and this board is, after all, frequented by white men…living in Asia…[/quote]
While such behaviour may be hard to behold, it also needs to be recognized that there are white blokes behaving very similarly with white girls back where you grew up. And with girls of whatever colour they can feast their lecherous appetites on. And black guys and Asian guys and guys of all hues and ethnicities doing the same. And Taiwanese guys doing it here in Taiwan, and in China and Southeast Asia and wherever else they have the opportunity to do so. And men everywhere doing it with women everywhere.
It’s in men’s nature to play the field, to fornicate as much as they can with as many women as they can find to accommodate their lascivious ravening. Some men have the character and moral code to desist from such behaviour when the opportunity to do so is there, and some – probably the majority, at least when they’re young and hyper-horny, and not restrained by the diktat of the pulpit – do not.
It’s not a white man thing, it’s a man thing.[/quote]
Nevertheless, it is, in my experience, the case that Taiwan attracts such men in the same way that Thailand attracts paedophiles. I read enough “I’m here, now where’s the pussy?” first posts on the D&R board before I stopped bothering to go there, to get that impression. Taiwanese women have a reputation for being all those things that your post exemplifies, a reputation your post perpetuates, and any douchebag reading it would be packing his bags.[/quote]
But which of the things that I listed are, in your opinion, bad? Are sparkling eyes bad, and more likely to lure over creepy predators than decent young men who wish to hitch up with that girl of their dreams? How about wispy waists? Glowing radiance? Entrancing allure? Pert breasts? Sweet affectionateness? Warm thoughtfulness? Breathtaking gorgeousness? A slender body? A gentle nature? Perfect proportions? Anything else?
Which of those qualities would you not like to possess yourself, and not wish to hear anyone using as descriptions of you? I’d be pretty glad to hear ladies saying any of those things about me. Except the pert breasts one. Though the manly equivalent would go down pretty well.
In fact, it’s all more Mills and Boonish than the kind of “come and get your fill of huge-titted, wet-pussied, cock-sucking, nympho harlots” kind of message (so common all over the internet and elsewhere these days) that would be more likely to attract the coarser members of our gender. Don’t you think so?
And who, anyway, would be so silly as to take my post literally? Isn’t it pretty evident that I’m just expressing my positive feelings about the kind of woman I’ve had the great pleasure to share many happy times with while I’ve been living in Taiwan, and that the fellow I was addressing should also be able to make friends with, and doing it in deliberately exaggerated language for the sake of effect.
Isn’t my lyrical praise somewhat better than the endless posts we get on here moaning and complaining about the squeaky-voiced, infantilely immature, grotesquely made up, Hello Kittyish, clingy, superficial, unadventurous, LV bag worshipping, skinny but flabby psycho xiaojies that are lying in wait to trap and sow horror in the lives of innocent foreign men who venture onto these shores?
Indeed, I can imagine the courser sort of callow fellow reading Omni’s posts (with the help of a dictionary) and deciding Taiwan was absolutely not for him.
To be fair, he didn’t; it was a split.