Barrier Lake Incidents

Well, I think we might need a dedicated thread for this. @afterspivak , this is partly due to our exchange related to the typhoon thread.

Things are looking precarious for the folks in Guangfu. Let’s hope this turns out to be nothing.

Authorities in Hualien County are preparing for possible large-scale evacuations as Typhoon Fung-Wong approaches Taiwan, with officials warning that extreme rainfall could trigger the formation of a new landslide lake on Mataian River (馬太鞍溪).

The Forestry and Nature Conservation Agency said yesterday that a new barrier lake could form if three extreme conditions occur simultaneously – 24-hour accumulated rainfall of 800 millimeters, the collapse of the existing Mataian barrier lake holding about 1.5 million cubic meters of water, and a massive slope landslide blocking the river channel.

If these conditions are met, the resulting lake could store up to 15 million cubic meters of water and, if it later collapses, could unleash floodwaters at a peak rate of around 4,500 cubic meters per second, the agency estimated.

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Hualien has gone through so much lately, from the 2024 earthquakes to this.

I can see why frustrations have at times burst through:

Photo from October 27, 2025, taken at the Dahua Activity Center in Guangfu, Hualien

Source: Hualien reconstruction talks descend into chaos - Taipei Times

Guy

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I’m seeing reports of flooding in Guangfu. Nothing official yet.

It just keeps happening…

A new barrier lake that formed on Matai’an Creek in Hualien County overflowed and flooded Mingli Village in Wanrong Township again Thursday afternoon, according to the Hualien branch of the Forestry and Nature Conservation Agency (FANCA).

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I almost thought that said @Mataiou I was like he got a creek named after him?

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Not sure if that would be a compliment in that case :sweat_smile:

Eh well, getting something named after yourself is probably more likely than renunciation-free citizenship.

Here is @Mataiou lake. Still no passport.

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The Guangfu Township Chief has reportedly been arrested and is being held incommunicado.

Guy

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Cant they just demolosh this lake?

Then build new residential buildings to ease real estate prices

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The landslide lake is still 1002m deep, estimated to hold 98.1k cubic meters of water, and the landslid dam is made of very unstable debris. There is no safe way to demolishing it without immediately endangering people living downstream.

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102 m deep?

Terrible situation either way, but wouldn’t pumping off water be the first step to safely disassembling/demolishing the dam?

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make a pretty good bunker/community. safe from explosives

For fish?

They’ve got excavators up at the lake site now from pictures I saw. I think they are trying to drain it, not exactly sure.

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Just reading off the chart. I thought too that it was a ridiculous number, so I checked multiple sources.

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Couldn’t they use pipes to siphon off controlled amounts of water now? (i.e. before the next big rain event)

The water-level on that chart may reflect it’s elevation. It’s a glacial valley with peaks over 3000m on both sides (Mount Nokou and Mount Maqudas). The landslide dam itself is 1139m abive sea-level. It also happens to be one of the steepest part of the central mountain range. The village of Fata’an is only 10km horizontally from the landslide lake, but for every kilometer, there is more than 100m change in altitude.

So right now the water level is no where near the rim of the dam, assuming no significant erosion has happened to the landslide dam itself.

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A team of 14 workers mannuallyand gradually lowered a portion of the dam for the past month and almost drained all of the water in the dam. Afterwards they were evacuated by a helicopter.

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Outstanding work by the team!

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I wonder if the work done was documented with a drone camera.

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