[quote=“MikeN”][quote=“jotham”]
There are realities that never changed. World War II happened because European nations, including Chamberlain, were peace-loving and just let a dictator walk all over them. Actually, Democrat Roosevelt was peace-loving too and didn’t want to be involved, until Japan forced our hand. Being peace-loving to the point of stupidity isn’t a good thing either.
America should have been awake and involved much earlier if not to save democracy in Europe, at least to help our strong ally Great Britain, which almost lost. Shame on our president for not keeping our military in preparation and keeping watch and getting involved early to snip things in the bud before they ever reached the climax of disproportionate problems that it became. It took many long years to conclude those wars when they could have been much smaller if we had intervened smartly before.
It’s just like Democrats to poo-poo and keep us out of conflicts that we really need to be responsibly watching for and they get us into conflicts that either we don’t need to be in, like Syria and Bosnia, or we were forced to be in unprepared, such as WWII, or we fought stupidly, like Vietnam or Korean War – and we lost many lives on both sides because we didn’t do it the Republican way, which is quick and total victory.[/quote]
Jesus, the level of ignorance in this post is jaw-dropping.
While the Europeans were too trusting of Hitler, if the League of Nations hadn’t been torpedoed by Republican isolationists, there would have been a much better chance of establishing a precedent for international pressure against aggressors.
And while Hitler rose to power and started his road to war, was America urging action to stop him? No, America was sitting behind its ocean saying “Not our business”.
Again, anybody who knows the slightest thing about modern history knows Roosevelt was doing everything in his power to get America into the war, with the support of Churchill, while Republican isolationists were opposing “sending American boys to die for the British Empire”; so successfully that America sat and watched Hitler take over Europe without lifting a finger in anger.
If Hitler hadn’t declared war on the U.S., Republicans could quite well have stymied Roosevelt’s desire to enter the European war; luckily, Adolf was out of the control of his generals at the time.
Try to learn something about history from sources other than Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.[/quote]
U.S. going into WWII was necessary to activate all the military industry, create jobs and boost the economy, and Roosevelt knew that. Also, every time the U.S. economy is slowing down… media point at some dictator or foreign country who needs help/to be punished, and here they go again. And after the war, the country becomes indebted to the U.S. and they have to pay back (with interest). Lucky for the U.S. government, there are always bad guys who deserve to be kicked in the balls (like Al-Assad).
And the useful bad guys… well, they keep them until they become a nuisance. Like Saddam Hussein, for example. There’s that famous quote: “Sure he’s a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.”, which could be applied to many dictators, like Somoza, Franco, Pinochet…
Remember that after WWII, no one (neither european countries or the U.S.) tried to help depose Franco from the power in Spain. He was really good friends with both Hitler and Mussolini, but he wasn’t an expansionist, and he was conducting communist hunts inside Spain. No one wanted a communist country in that position, so they let him be for 40 years. The U.S. bargained with him to let Spain enter the U.N. in exchange for some military bases in the country, even when Franco was a dictator that repressed the civil population for 40 years.
And let’s not forget that the actual king was appointed Franco’s successor by the dictator himself, and that many politicians from the People’s Party (the ones in power now) come either from the fascist party or from influential families with a lot of power in the dictatorship. A former president, José Maria Aznar, also supported W. and Blair on going to Iraq, even when more than the 90% of the population in Spain was against it. Runs in the family.