China is picking quarrels and provoking trouble

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505

No of course not

He is running on a pro Terry Gou platform

506

Isn’t everyone apart from Lai, pro-beijing?

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507

Hahahahahaha good one

Somebody should give you a Nobel Peace Prize

  1. That’s not in the U.S. interests
  2. It’s not what most people in Taiwan want
  3. The situation would still be the same. You are talking about a war with China and not Belize
  4. Taiwan would definitely be 100% more at risk
508

What are you talking about man?

None of the candidates are pro Beijing and they would get destroyed if they were

All of the candidates have basically the same cross straits stance

This podcast is an excellent primer on the candidates

509

You are burying your head in the sand if you believe Ko, Gou and Ho aren’t pro-Beijing.

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510

Yes and they were also on Epstein’s island

511

It wouldn’t surprise me if they wish they were. Esp. Gou. His wife is like 30 years younger than him. Gross.

And they are pro-Beijing. You’ve been reading too much crap on Dcard and PTT if you believe otherwise.

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512

Where do you get your inside info Gain ?

513

I don’t need any inside info to know that they are pro-Beijing. All of KMT are pro-Beijing and Ko has repeatedly says that he wants Taiwan to get closer to China.

As for Gou and his wife’s age gap. Gou is 72, his wife is 48. So not exactly 30 years but it’s gross anyhow.

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514

If you are really anti-Beijing, you wouldn’t constantly talk about collaborating with candidates from a party that’s clearly pro-Beijing. Gou and Ko are all the same, they are egotistical old men hungry for power and wants to replace the KMT since the CCP is fed up with the KMT. Hou is more like a puppet to a very pro-China base.

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515

Robbing the cradle! Clearly a 48 year old woman is incapable of choosing what she wants. She should be protected from this sort of abuse. :roll_eyes:

Guy

516

Is he? The KMT clearly has a loud but small pro-China corner (think of shills like Hung Hsiu-chu). It also has murky arrangements with the so-called “local” factions around the island that seem to be more interested in $$$ than ideology. Keeping these very different groups unified and satisfied has consistently been, during the democatic era, the KMT’s achilles heel.

Guy

517

The local factions have repeatedly been pushed out by the supposedly small pro-China corner ever since LTH was forced out of the party. There was LTH, there was Soong and his very local base, then there was Wang Jin-ping, and the list goes on.

Due to the reliance on the flawed first-past-the-post voting system, only the most extreme candidate would win in the party primary, resulting in the extreme candidate getting crushed in the actual election. That is why this time the KMT opted for using polls to determine their candidate, which finally yielded their first local candidate since the exit of LTH.

The only local forces still affiliated with the KMT are local… uh… “factions” that are truly local, such as Yen in Taichung, and Fu in Hualien. They have no national appeal, nor do they have national ambitions. They also aren’t really a part of the KMT’s inner power circle.

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518

If you were really pro-Beijing you wouldnt spend most of your life supporting Taiwan independence and being part of pro-Taiwan independence groups, including Friends of Chen Shui Bian

519

Whether he was really pro-Taiwan independence prior to 2018 is irrelevant, he isn’t behaving like he is pro-Taiwan independence, and has repeatedly supported foreign policies that would have increased Taiwan’s economic dependence on China and decrease the USA’s trust in Taiwan’s determination maintain its sovereignty.

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520

Like what?

the thing when he said should review the service talks

More like political wrangling.

Totally ridiculous to call someone pro-Beijing for that but kind of what you would expect here.

521

That’s just one in the long string of pro-China thing he said, but it is pretty much the center piece. If you are pro-Taiwan, that’s just not a topic that should be used for political wrangling. If you don’t think so that’s your right. It’s pretty ridiculous to call others ridiculous for coming to our own conclusions though.

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522

Pro-Taiwan is nebulous

But the accusation was that he was pro-Beijing

523

You’ll excuse me for not trusting a politician who deliberately obfuscates their position on key topics.

“What will I do, dean? Well, these people don’t want me to say what I’ll do, they want me to do what I’ll say.”

Every populist’s motto.

524

All of them then

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