interesting, FLORIDA basically saying NOPE to masks, nope to lockdowns, no to Fauci.
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I am very grateful not to be a resident of Florida!
Some of the latest figures from that troubled state:
Guy
Itâs true that Florida has a COVID death rate somewhat higher than the US average, but itâs still very small numbers. Theyâre averaging 30-50 deaths a day, mostly (as we all know) people in their 80s with comorbidities. More life-years are currently being lost in âthat troubled stateâ in car accidents than to COVID. Official estimates for suicide state â49,282 life-yearsâ lost to suicide in Florida, assuming a natural death at age 65.
COVID in Florida is a problem, for the same reason road accidents and suicides are a problem. But it is not the problem. DeSantis, IMO, has the right idea.
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Ever thought you may have been hoodwinked?
Is there a reason Pfizer does not want the likes of Ivermectin available (in the leaked contract from Albania for their inoculation if I recall) alongside their potions?
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2000 participants? Interesting. Ivermectin studies (the largest having a few hundred participants) are being dismissed as worthless because they donât have enough participants.
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This is disturbing
âAt least 233 staffers at a pair of San Francisco hospitals have tested positive for COVID-19, the majority of whom were fully vaccinated but became infected with the delta variant.â
Itâs disturbing if any of them die.
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it could be disturbing if any of them spread virus to vulnerable at the hospitals and some of them die.
Itâs more than just a binary of life / death.
First off, youâre taking these important workers out of service, causing disruptions to health care.
Second, they may infect others, leading to further possible trouble.
Third, even if they all live, some will likely be affected by so-called âlong COVID,â impacting the quality of their lives and their abilities to contribute, and putting further strain on a system that was not designed to deal with this.
The outcomes here are not simply binary.
Guy
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If theyâre vaccinated.
These only apply if the vaccines donât work.
For people too vulnerable to be vaccinated, covid risk could be just a noise.
Thatâs always going to be the case even if everyone who can get vaccinated is vaccinated.
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From the report:
âMost of the infections caused mild to moderate symptoms.â
Of those 469 positive cases in total, five were hospitalized, three of those had comorbidities.
No one died.
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Government/corporate funding stopped I wonder?
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You are again stuck in a binary of work / donât work.
Vaccines are designed to mitigate harm, to reduce the chances of bad outcomes.
I hope someday you can push beyond the all-or-nothing thinking as it is really not helping us to understand whatâs happening now.
Guy
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The vaccines are working, to a degree, and your fears are misplaced. I hope someday you can push past fearing worst possible outcomes for which there is no evidence
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Suit yourself.
I do worry honestly about the all-or-nothing thinking that seems to be prevalent on this board. Iâm not satisfied with this thinking, and I donât think you should be satisfied with it either.
In the meantime, good day to you sir.
Guy
Iâm not sure yet if the benefits of vaccine to healthy youngers overwhelm the costs.
At some point we have to return to normality. This will mean accepting people contracting the virus while fully vaccinated. Some of them may experience illness. Evidence to date shows this is a very small number.
Otherwise, itâs social distancing measures for ever.
Try not to worry so much.
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