Coronavirus Open Thread 2022

Taoyuan Airport is actually very fast now, because there are very few passengers.

They’ve managed to develop a very efficient testing and quarantining procedure that’s totally pointless.

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Let’s call them deniers then.

It used to be the hippie tourist who brought chicken pox or measles.

Then these angry folks who deny there was a problem with COVID and refused refused to wear masks and came to our lands because our countries did not ask for proof of vaccination or PCR or had quarantine of any kind. Many came sick already. Let’s be kind and say asymptomatic but not. It’s only a cold.

Of course, when they got sicker, our communist medical systems would care for them. And the disease spread. We lost five thousand medical workers. Not to mention patients or family members.

But the borders are open.

Now there are hundreds of children in the emergency wards with respiratory issues. Dunno what is the deal, the government takes its cue from developed countries, move on, don’t count the cases, don’t test, don’t investigate, it’s over. Everything is fine.

Until it doesn’t.

Yet you can still stay in an all inclusive resort, get a Kardashian derriere and enjoy carnal delights with the locals. As long as you pay, all is fine.

Those are some pretty surprising admissions by the CDC! I guess it’ll take some time to filter through though, after two years of a different message.

Receipt of a primary series alone, in the absence of being up to date with vaccination* through receipt of all recommended booster doses, provides minimal protection against infection and transmission (3,6). Being up to date with vaccination provides a transient period of increased protection against infection and transmission after the most recent dose, although protection can wane over time.

Source: Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August 2022 | MMWR

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It should not be. It could have been different.

So far there’s been nothing but a blizzard of tumbleweed. I think it was @KHHVille posted the original link a couple of days ago and nobody seemed interested. I haven’t seen much comment about it in the MSM either.

I just thought the Weinsteins’s analysis of the chaos caused by vaccine mandates (and sub-mandate coercion, as was used in Taiwan) was absolutely on-point, given this grudging backtrack from the CDC. The vitriol that was poured out upon the filthy unvaxed was a low point in human history. People who fired their employees, berated their friends, or lashed out at strangers online clearly had no basis for their behaviour. An apology would be nice, but I doubt it’s coming anytime soon.

Taiwan’s CECC will no doubt continue to intone “safe and effective” while they pressure parents to bring their babies to the altar.

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Not really that surprising. People have known for some time that the vaccine provides less protection for some of the new variants that are currently more prevalent. It has been widely reported that they are trying to develop a vaccine that combats the current variants. Here are significant statements from the Summary:

The risk for medically significant illness increases with age, disability status, and underlying medical conditions but is considerably reduced by immunity derived from vaccination, previous infection, or both, as well as timely access to effective biomedical prevention measures and treatments (3,5). CDC’s public health recommendations change in response to evolving science, the availability of biomedical and public health tools, and changes in context, such as levels of immunity in the population and currently circulating variants.

The rates of COVID-19–associated hospitalization and death are substantially higher among unvaccinated adults than among those who are up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccination, particularly adults aged ≥65 years (5,7). Emerging evidence suggests that vaccination before infection also provides some protection against post–COVID-19 conditions,† and that vaccination among persons with post–COVID-19 conditions might help reduce their symptoms (8). Continuing to increase vaccination coverage and ensuring that persons are up to date with vaccination are essential to preventing severe outcomes.

And this crucial sentence:

Public health efforts need to continue to promote up-to-date vaccination for everyone, especially with vaccines targeting emerging novel variants that might be more transmissible or immune-evasive.

No one complains about the fact that last year’s flu vaccine doesn’t work against this year’s flu strain.

No one is trying to give last year’s flu vaccine to everyone either, and no one is cheering on the cause to get everyone vaccinated with an outdated vaccine developed in 2020. Spot the difference?

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Except that in the case of Covid, the previous versions of the virus are still around and the vaccine does also provide some protection for the newer versions. So there is a difference.

The point being that the virus situation is constantly changing and its impact and severity are changing. Scientists and medical professionals are always learning more about the ways to combat Covid. Naturally, governments are changing their response accordingly.

So take another shot. The situation is changing but some people keep saying the same stuff.

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Also: if you’d pointed out on social media six months ago what governments have (apparently) just “discovered”, you would have been banned from the platform or had your video pulled; or your post would be tagged with “heath authorities consider vaccination the best way to prevent the spread of COVID”, or some similar message.

I don’t recall anything of the sort happening when people point out that flu vaccines are a bit hit-and-miss.

In other news:

“We have in place a comprehensive safety surveillance strategy for monitoring the safety of all UK-approved COVID-19 vaccines and this will include the vaccine approved today.”

LOL. Good one. Oh … wait, you’re serious, aren’t you?

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Hope he gets every cent of it.

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It continues to push masking despite the fact there is not a single study with a control group showing that masking mandates prevent COVID spread. And not a single real-world example of a country that has managed to control spread through masking. We masked toddlers because the CDC said to. It was egregious. It was damaging.

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These lawsuits are being won on rather spurious grounds, but at least they are being won.

Realistically, I doubt even a fraction of a percent of the people who deserve to be compensated for the harm that has been done to them will actually be compensated, when all’s said and done, and the people responsible will - apart from a few who get unlucky - just walk away smelling of roses. For example, I doubt anyone has been fired at NorthShore over this matter, nor will they have to pay the compensation out of their own pockets.

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Predictable, but still depressing. Over 1000 people a week dying in the UK due to Covid response measures.

Fucked over the kids. Fucked up the NHS even more. The economy is fucked. All because of the covid RESPONSE.

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Perhaps they need a lockdown to protect the NHS from the consequences of the lockdown.

Wonder where Matt Wanksock is spending all his ill-gotten gains at the moment?

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Can’t wait for the cunts to come out and declare that they were against lockdowns from the beginning and that if you check their record it is obvious that they never said we should lockdown.

You will have people coming out saying that we didn’t lockdown and even if you did, you shouldn’t have listened to the politicians. I mean they are not epidemiologists.

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The problem was some epidemiologists ran the show. Obviously all they focussed on was the virus, with no thought given to anything else.

At the moment very sick people are dying earlier than otherwise because of the Covid response. A couple of years ago very sick people were dying earlier than otherwise perhaps because of Covid. The latter was cause for an unprecedented national public health response. The former doesn’t seem to matter. It’s weird how people treat death.

Did the full-body physical recently. The tubes down the throat, up the bumm, etc. Very glad to have done it for health reasons/security, as had not done so in over a decade.
Recommend any else over 40 to get it done if it’s been a long time or even if never done it before. Out of pocket, but cannot be cheap with such things, given what they can find or even mention about one’s current state of health.