Coronavirus - Taiwan Developments Feb-Mar 2022

I was agreeing with Mr @Brianjones when he said that the government ‘doesn’t seem to have a problem with foreign workers being locked up or heavily restricted for the greater good of those who want to enjoy freedom themselves.’

CNY gatherings good, foreign factory workers going to Taipei bad

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. . . except if you are jumping quarantine! Then you get your own story in the press and a nice fine to go along with it. :neutral_face:

Guy

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I totally don’t get that, especially with how Taiwan monitors movement for quarantines. Play stupid games …

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No presser today, and nothing on the CDC Website so far.

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At least if there’s no presser we know it wasn’t a horrible day.

17 local
38 imported

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I hope they’ve sorted the issue of Covid spreading through Taiwan quarantine hotels. That could be an issue, what with many being sent to them these days.

Anyone have any updated news on the results of inspecting them all? :thinking:

“Head of the Central Epidemic Command Center Chen Shih-chung is calling for a complete inspection of all the quarantine hotels nationwide.”

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Yes, on the website now, details at the link. 17 + 38 = 55 and no deaths.

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And only seven cases in the wild?! Wow. I did not expect things to go this way.

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And yesterday nine in the wild.

There’s no guarantee that the infections out there can be contained. But at least for now the numbers in the community are not leaping into the hundreds.

Guy

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Focus Taiwan article for today:

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Yesterday I saw a group of what appears to be migrant workers, all talking but one guy who is wearing chin diapers coughing constantly… I hope this isn’t a bad sign.

Saw this with a bunch of older Taiwanese dudes on a hiking trail.

I’ve said it already, most likely via the bathroom ventilation. No filters, it’s rather cold so people have the windows closed, and then the normal heating is just inside the room. Bathroom ventilation is shared without any filters usually. If people have no open windows actually quite a lot of air exchange will be going on with one room having the AC switched on, the other not…
That way, a lot more air exchange can happen than any other way. It won’t spread via hallways within the few seconds People collect their food.

You actually max end up with 50 percent of air exchange that way directly between rooms. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out… People should open windows, and bathroom ventilation should be taped off.

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There is no requirement to get tested because of a cough, I think not even a recommendation. It’s exactly as expected with their measures.

Other countries doing zero covid or at the beginning were handing out money, inventives to get tested with symptoms.

Give people 30.000ntd it they test positive with symptoms but without a notice from contact tracing if you as a government mean it serious. The current way I can only assume it’s a show and on purpose. They don’t want people to go testing with symptoms.

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chances we see a major spike after CNY? seems VERY odd how low the numbers are given how contagious this thing is Some people seem to think that there is going to be quite a big spike in numbers after CNY.

Just what I was thinking… Make 'em scared of getting locked up, therefore no one will go for test, then when it goes outta control “they” can say…“we were stringent, we locked em up, but its the peoples fault it spread because they wouldn’ t go for tests

yeah not a fuckin chance this thing isn’t in the community way above what current numbers suggest. If I was in a casino I’d go all in on that bet.

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Maybe they just nasal swab people except arrivals. I’ve heard about 80-90 percent of people positive in throat swab will be negative on nasal swab…

Taiwan loves to continue things that once worked and never change. Only airport arrival saliva test was throat for me… All self test told to use nose, and the two follow up PCR Tests were nasal swab too.

The was Taiwan handles this is strange to the max, and not following the science at all. It sucks from any viewpoint except the one viewpoint that they are deliberately putting on a show and letting it mainly rip through while telling people that it nearly doesn’t exist. I already said so from public health standpoint that is likely the was they can achieve fewest death, at the cost of lying into everyone’s face and keeping the quarantine for show only. Under that assumption they introduce measures to slow it down to avoid people noticing it, scaring people a bit but actually having 20-30k cases per day minimum right now. However due to people assuming it rarely exists, they don’t need to correct their views on it having become a cold only. So from this viewpoint they casualty they are taking are those sent to quarantine prison, while the placebo effect is what they are gaining. Just hard to see how they can end that show… Plus they need to make sure people don’t use antibody tests that differentiate between vaccination and actual infection. Right now you would need to take two antibody tests for that.

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But how can you prove it, if it’s the case which many people assume (also many Taiwanese). If it’s the case and they keep up the show, it wull just continue. The lockdowns only slow it down, but marginally. So without lockdowns and transparency it would be over by mid march. This way it will be over by mid April. Question remaining how can you then open the borders? Wouldn’t people get suspicious if it never breaks out. Will they wait for it being in actual decline before going for proper testing and announcing an end to zero covid? Make a lockdown show for 2-3 weeks with level 3 or 3.5 and then say it’s over and people don’t like lockdown so we have to end it because they people don’t want lockdown, but our miraculous system saved them all…